DmC's character designs
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DragonMaster2010
Don't Let the Fall of America be Your Fall
Dante's was the best for its subtlety and style. I always liked the whole ripped up look since Jared Nomak in blade 2. It's not suppose to be stylish and is made to be grungy and edgy. Not this bishonen pretty boy crap that they show so much on anime and cinema. It makes him stand out from the rest of the Dantes and makes him my most favored Dante out of all of them.
I do prefer old Vergil's design though. New vergil's look was an odd choice. Not because of the blue pants but rather the coat he wore. It just seemed so odd to me and felt like it was a fashionista sort of trend. Just seemed to flashy for someone like Vergil who's old school in DMC3.
Kat was both cute and sexy at the same time. Her small body and face made it all look cute, but the way she walked and the way her ass popped from those shorts was...! Whoo~!
Barbas, Mundus, and Lilith dressed exactly how I thought they would; like a bunch of uptight assholes.
Phineas had a good look with the wise old man and the robot eye style.
I do prefer old Vergil's design though. New vergil's look was an odd choice. Not because of the blue pants but rather the coat he wore. It just seemed so odd to me and felt like it was a fashionista sort of trend. Just seemed to flashy for someone like Vergil who's old school in DMC3.
Kat was both cute and sexy at the same time. Her small body and face made it all look cute, but the way she walked and the way her ass popped from those shorts was...! Whoo~!
Barbas, Mundus, and Lilith dressed exactly how I thought they would; like a bunch of uptight assholes.
Phineas had a good look with the wise old man and the robot eye style.
Stylish Nero
We Dem Boys!!
Not a big fan of most of the character designs.
Mundus was too generic for me (both in his human form and his boss form). If he doesn't look like a bald banker like in a lot of western action her movie he looks like a final from a Pixar/Dreamworks movie...or Megatron.
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Lilith was........disturbing but in a creative way so I'll give it some props.
Kat was okay but my main problem was the fact she was kinda too petite and seemed rather fragile you'd think being part of a demon hunting like organization she'll be a bit more fit and athletic (although the comic did feature some, rather inconsistent, depictions her of seeming fit and healthy. Geez I can kick her and she'll fall down. Plus having such a nice rack and butt like that but with such a skinny body seems awkward to me.
Didn't care for Dante's design. I know its intention but I think this whole grounded realism BS is kind of irrelevant when you have someone dressed like Vergil does and well DmC's plot plus I prefer that one Neo Dante DLC and the DMC3 costume look though...in fact I prefer the Black Dante DLC outfit since it reminds me of the matrix and even fits with DmC's tone. Plus without the jacket (or with it) he reminds me of some douchebags I met in life.
I really like Vergil's design for how................interesting it looked. I especially love the blue markings on his jacket looks very fancy and nice. The only thing that bothers me are the pants. They stick out so badly with the rest of the clothes.....plus who still wears pants like those....maybe its the color. Also the gloves might be more better if they were black or dark/navy blue rather than bright ass blue and leather rather than rubber. Although it seems Vergil determines what he wears by using a roulette wheel I still like the fancy design.
Phineas is nice.
As for enemies and bosses....I like the Witch, Butcher, Dreamrunner/Drekavac, Bob, Hunter's, and to some small extent Spawn's design as well as the Ravager.
Mundus was too generic for me (both in his human form and his boss form). If he doesn't look like a bald banker like in a lot of western action her movie he looks like a final from a Pixar/Dreamworks movie...or Megatron.
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Lilith was........disturbing but in a creative way so I'll give it some props.
Kat was okay but my main problem was the fact she was kinda too petite and seemed rather fragile you'd think being part of a demon hunting like organization she'll be a bit more fit and athletic (although the comic did feature some, rather inconsistent, depictions her of seeming fit and healthy. Geez I can kick her and she'll fall down. Plus having such a nice rack and butt like that but with such a skinny body seems awkward to me.
Didn't care for Dante's design. I know its intention but I think this whole grounded realism BS is kind of irrelevant when you have someone dressed like Vergil does and well DmC's plot plus I prefer that one Neo Dante DLC and the DMC3 costume look though...in fact I prefer the Black Dante DLC outfit since it reminds me of the matrix and even fits with DmC's tone. Plus without the jacket (or with it) he reminds me of some douchebags I met in life.
I really like Vergil's design for how................interesting it looked. I especially love the blue markings on his jacket looks very fancy and nice. The only thing that bothers me are the pants. They stick out so badly with the rest of the clothes.....plus who still wears pants like those....maybe its the color. Also the gloves might be more better if they were black or dark/navy blue rather than bright ass blue and leather rather than rubber. Although it seems Vergil determines what he wears by using a roulette wheel I still like the fancy design.
Phineas is nice.
As for enemies and bosses....I like the Witch, Butcher, Dreamrunner/Drekavac, Bob, Hunter's, and to some small extent Spawn's design as well as the Ravager.
Jak
i like turtles
ignoring the fact that people say donte dresses like a douche seeing as how i dress like that...i will say that i really do like the character models. mainly because thats how people dress in real life. and it fits the tone of the universe. because its not that the universe itself is "realistic" but the reactions people have and their attitudes towards this universe are. and thats reflected in the character models
Loopy
Devil hunter in training
I really liked all the designs. I think the team did a good job in costume department and looks.
My only gripe would be Mundus in his final form. It was too generic...I think that's the word I'm going for. It just didn't look interesting to me. I've seen that kind of final boss form too many times in movies and games.
My only gripe would be Mundus in his final form. It was too generic...I think that's the word I'm going for. It just didn't look interesting to me. I've seen that kind of final boss form too many times in movies and games.
Sunaka Marién
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Dante: I really like his design. I like how it's already got a some sorta style, but isn't quite as refined yet. I love how there are skratches all over his coat an shoes, how his shirt looks kinda gray-ish and is sloppily tucked in. But what stands out the most for me, are the little details - the scars all over his body and most prominently on his right cheek and eyebrow, the messy hair and the little stubbles on his chin - it all tells us quite a bit about his character. Plus, dem shaved sides <3.
Vergil: His design wonderfully contrasts Dante's, clean, proper, sorta posh. That little extra piece of cloth on his coat is kinda odd though, and I'm a little torn on his gloves - I mean, I get it, he doesn't whant to get his fingerprints anywhere and most likely does some lab work/experiments, but, dunno, those rubber gloves just don't go nicely with the rest of his outfit :/
Kat: Hate her make-up. It's hideous. But given that she's only 16-17 years old (and yes, that is her official age) and considering her life, it makes sense and again tells us quite a bit about her character. But what I most dislike about her design are the shorts. I'm sorry but they just don't make any sense - they leave her legs completely unprotected, which is a bit of a disadvantage when you're fighting against demons, and who the hell wears such short pants in fall-winter?
Mundus: Hm, dunno, it's a bit of a cliché villian design I guess and his final form was just kinda boring, but I really like how he's got a little white feather in his vest pocket. A trophy from a certain murdered angel perhaps?
Lilith: She seems like a caricature to me, like, they took the worst of what a woman could be, completely exaggerated it and Ta-Da! Lilith was created. And it works, if you ask me.
Phineas: He also seems like a pretty standart mentor-type of character, really like the robotic eye, though. Random Trivia: His design seems to be based on an old ZBrush sclupt Dan Baker made: http://cghub.com/images/view/68561/
Vergil: His design wonderfully contrasts Dante's, clean, proper, sorta posh. That little extra piece of cloth on his coat is kinda odd though, and I'm a little torn on his gloves - I mean, I get it, he doesn't whant to get his fingerprints anywhere and most likely does some lab work/experiments, but, dunno, those rubber gloves just don't go nicely with the rest of his outfit :/
Kat: Hate her make-up. It's hideous. But given that she's only 16-17 years old (and yes, that is her official age) and considering her life, it makes sense and again tells us quite a bit about her character. But what I most dislike about her design are the shorts. I'm sorry but they just don't make any sense - they leave her legs completely unprotected, which is a bit of a disadvantage when you're fighting against demons, and who the hell wears such short pants in fall-winter?
Mundus: Hm, dunno, it's a bit of a cliché villian design I guess and his final form was just kinda boring, but I really like how he's got a little white feather in his vest pocket. A trophy from a certain murdered angel perhaps?
Lilith: She seems like a caricature to me, like, they took the worst of what a woman could be, completely exaggerated it and Ta-Da! Lilith was created. And it works, if you ask me.
Phineas: He also seems like a pretty standart mentor-type of character, really like the robotic eye, though. Random Trivia: His design seems to be based on an old ZBrush sclupt Dan Baker made: http://cghub.com/images/view/68561/
Stylish Nero
We Dem Boys!!
You see that was what Capcom wanted:tongue:.....well sort of.....I guess.
The whole boss fight seems rather bland and uncreative compared to the rest of the bosses.
S.F.W
King of Hearts
Dante: His look became more and more natural (I would say) the longer I played as him. Overall, i'm not a fan of his design anymore. But I think I can appreciate what NT was trying to do.
Vergil: Thought it was a bit lacking, but it suited Vergil well enough. Dat fedora tho - a terrible decision to drop it so early :thumbsdown:. Overall - Meh.
Kat - For a character as seemingly as important as she is, I didn't pay too much attention to her. Her style of clothing was...okay?
Phineas : I liked his character design alot- a weathered, old , forgotten relic with profound knowledge and insight.
Everyone else was decent looking except Lilith. NT could have saved the plastic surgery look for after she was killed as some sort of deep message I suppose.
Vergil: Thought it was a bit lacking, but it suited Vergil well enough. Dat fedora tho - a terrible decision to drop it so early :thumbsdown:. Overall - Meh.
Kat - For a character as seemingly as important as she is, I didn't pay too much attention to her. Her style of clothing was...okay?
Phineas : I liked his character design alot- a weathered, old , forgotten relic with profound knowledge and insight.
Everyone else was decent looking except Lilith. NT could have saved the plastic surgery look for after she was killed as some sort of deep message I suppose.
Teal
A self-diagnosed misanthrope
Sure, there is a lot you can criticize Kat about, but her 'big' rack is not one, and neither is the fact that she wears tight shorts pants that are not very suitable for fighting demons(despite her never directly engaging in combat). Why? Because her rack looks perfectly normal if compared to Lady, Trish and about half of the characters in DMC4. Oh, and they also wore shorts and very itchy spandex suits, yet were able to perform very complicated and often arousing moves.
E: Also, can you tell me where did you hear that Kat's 16-17? Provide me with a link, perhaps? Cause if she really is, then I will no longer see Vergil or Dante the same way anymore, considering Vergil has had a brief relationship with her once and Dante has yet to develop it in future installments.
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Sunaka Marién
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Well, even though she doesn't directly engage in combat, it seems that she has to at least run from the police every now and then - spraying graffity ain't nothing they like seeing someone do, y'know? Also, as I said, it seems to be at least fall or even winter when DmC takes place, so it's just too cold for those kinda shorts.
Stylish Nero
We Dem Boys!!
I was never saying her boobs was a problem I was talking about her well endowed bust and measurements seems to be rather odd on such a scrawny body of hers. If anything wouldn't Trish and Lady have a more normal body type since they're not as skrawny as Kat. I'm just saying Kat needs some more meat on her bones.
Trish is a demon so laws of human anatomy and proper movement structure don't apply to her (same goes for Lucia). Lady wear such free and unrestricted clothing to allow for her more free flowing acrobatic movement. Lady sort of needs to dress skimpy (although DMC3 was fine...DMC4 was over doing it) to allow for her form of combat to work. Kat last I check doesn't fight so what is her excuse to dress rather revealing compared to her male companions? Fanservice? Cause they felt like it?
If anything you should be judging NT for portraying a 16-17 old as slightly sexual (or sexual) based on your take on the ass and boob shots...but the age of consent might be lower in the UK than the US (which is 18) in Japan the age of consent is 13.....0r 14 and that explains the sexual depiction of teenage girls in various media (particular anime and manga).
Sunaka Marién
Well-known Member
Well, to be fair, girls that age (and younger) do dress that way, but only if it's sufficiently warm outside.
Also the age of consent in the UK seems to be 16.
Stylish Nero
We Dem Boys!!
Yeah I know.
As for the weather either way someone looks stupid.
If its warm won't Dante and Vergil seem like they're over dressing and both are wearing a large excessive amounts of black (especially Dante) so they should be attracting a lot of heat and be burning up in all that clothing (especially Vergil). Then again why is Kay wearing a sweater unless she wants to..........sweat more.
If its cold out....put on some damn pants....although I know schools who allow girls to wear skirts during the winter...even if they're wearing stockings it must be very uncomfortable.
As for the weather it might be spring where both are fine or the usual answer most writings take in "What weather?" and just leave it ambigious because unless there is a reason why the weather (or time) actually mattered to the plot there is no reason to be specific about the weather.
Meg
Well-known Member
The age of consent varies by state in the US: ranging from 16 to 18.
Also, god forbid a woman not be fully covered up. I mean, a woman walking around showing skin? Le gasp!
Sarcasm aside, a woman's body belongs to her and no one else. If Kat wants to walk around wearing shorts and a open top, then that's her choice. And to say she is wearing "revealing" clothing because her legs and part of her breasts are showing is ridiculous. She doesn't need an excuse to wear that. It doesn't need justifying.
Also, god forbid a woman not be fully covered up. I mean, a woman walking around showing skin? Le gasp!
Sarcasm aside, a woman's body belongs to her and no one else. If Kat wants to walk around wearing shorts and a open top, then that's her choice. And to say she is wearing "revealing" clothing because her legs and part of her breasts are showing is ridiculous. She doesn't need an excuse to wear that. It doesn't need justifying.
Sunaka Marién
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Considering how it starts snowing in the final fight with Vergil, it seems to be relatively cold, which would kinda go along with the way Vergil and Dante are dressed. Kat just seems to not really fit in, imo. But yeah, it was probably like "Lol, what is this weather you're talking about?"
Sunaka Marién
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It was mentioned in the Japanese manual in a background text, I scanned that page a while ago. Link: http://redpaperpen.tumblr.com/post/46713090116/just-dropping-by-to-tell-you-that-kat-is
There. Also I for one don't see a reason why you'd look differently at Vergil or Dante because of that, I mean, c'mon, letting your government dictate who you may or may not be in a relationship with? Sorry, that's nothing I'll ever understand. Also I don't see why Dante has to development that kinda raltinship with her, it seemed more to me that he sees her as some kinda sister.
The Final Offer
Well-known Member
F*** it I'll ask.
How do you dress like a douche?
How do you dress like a douche?
Stylish Nero
We Dem Boys!!
The age of consent thing is more of a society thing rather than the government although the government can enforce it. The age of consent laws mostly are applied to the media to prevent the sexual exploitation of teens and child pornography.
Its set up for a reason to prevent 30 years old to date and/or engage in sexual activity with 5 year olds.
I wish the government can't dictate where I can and can't jack off to. :woot:
Stylish Nero
We Dem Boys!!
Its a figure of a speech....sort of.
Its presenting an air of smugness and arrogance.
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Loopy
Devil hunter in training
Don't find her sexual in the slightest. She looks like a teenager anyway...nothing sexual about adolescents to me. Maybe that's because I've seen girls who look a lot older than their age, so the news that she's 16-17 doesn't surprise me.
Still think it's pretty messed up that the age of consent is 16 for UK. That's still a child to me. Then again, I guess people in their 20's could seem like children to people 30 or older. I know 30 seems old to me, that's for sure.
But, 16 is a silly age for consent: Can't smoke, can't drink, can't drive a car, can't vote, barely finished GCSEs, but you can have an accidental pregnancy and be manipulated by an adult with more life experience, money and power who see the 16 year old as easy prey. Lovely...
Those rules come into play if you've got a 20 something, 30 something or older adult manipulating children and younger teenagers into sex.
They're children and should not be being preyed on by perverts. Children have no idea what they want and don't understand the ramifications even if they do agree to sex. If it's a young female, pregnancy can kill or severely maim if the girl's body is too young. That's why rules exist.
What I don't agree with is statutory rape when there is something like 15 with 16 year old or 15 with 17 year old. They're near the same age, so why does 1 year turn consensual sex into a rape charge?
He doesn't have to be romantic with Kat. After what they went through, all the trust they built, it would cheapen that if they were romantic. I'd prefer them to just be really close, some kind of platonic relationship would be fine.