but has the positive of taking away headaches
Foxy, DMC5 was already doing that. Like I said, least this way, the timeline's less screwed upDoes it though? Cause Dante's completely backwards personality makes even less sense now and the feeling of disconnection DMC2 has with the rest of the series is even more apparent without having the "it's set in the distant future" excuse. This change in the timeline actually exacerbates the already glaring issues DMC2 has.
Foxy, DMC5 was already doing that.
O...Okay.
I guess it's not a super important retcon, but it still extremely odd. I wonder what the reasoning was?
Or just say that 2 happened but it was a regular day on the job.
Dante's personality can make sense if you consider that he went through the pain of losing brother twice in DMC 1 and DMC 3, his experiences in another timeline where he had to kill an evil version of Trish and Trish and Lady being absent from the game means his closest allies aren't around.Does it though? Cause Dante's completely backwards personality makes even less sense now and the feeling of disconnection DMC2 has with the rest of the series is even more apparent without having the "it's set in the distant future" excuse. This change in the timeline actually exacerbates the already glaring issues DMC2 has.
There are worse entries into a franchise than DMC 2 that don't get erased and nothing about it is so offensive it has to be retconned out. There's still somethings to like about it like Lucia, Dante's design, Rebellion and Majin form. It's far from flawless but it does have some merits.Or, you know, erase that game from canon entirely. It never quite fit in anyway, it wouldn't be much of a loss at all and it would make the timeline a lot more consistent. Imo, these attempts to try and make DMC2 fit by putting it in various spots of the timeline are all destined to fail and backfire cause that game is fundamentally alien to the the series as a whole in the first place.
I was once all for having a new game acknowledge it in some way but now I've realized that's just wasted effort and the series would benefit more from a declaration of non canon status than doing these shenanigans.
Dante's personality can make sense
Even then, Dante's personality in 2 wasn't that much of an extreme divergence from how he acted in the first game.
Not when you consider that you got a moody, silent and borderline emotionless Dante inserted in between his motorbike-juggling, bantering and active DMC1 self and his humorous DMC4 self. At least, when it was the last in the timeline, it had that excuse and there was more room for you to make up whatever headcanon you wanted to justify his shift in personality. Now that room got way smaller.
Yes, yes it was. I won't repeat myself cause I explained why in another thread made for that specific topic a while ago and that discussion doesn't belong here, but to come to a more relevant topic, I don't want DMC2 erased just because it's a bad game. I want it non canon because it's a burden. No matter where you place it in the story, it remains alien and just spawns new head scratchers for the devs to explain. It could have been the absolute best game in the franchise, its gameplay could have been unrivaled and it could have had the finest combat system ever created, but it wouldn't have fixed the fundamentally foreign feeling and the sense of disconnection the game has. Which is why it keeps not fitting in, no matter at which point in the timeline they put it. The fact that it's a terrible game isn't the reason the franchise is better off with DMC2 being declared non canon, that's just the pineapple topping on a pizza of manure.
There are ways to fit it into the timeline without any issues
I beg to differ. There's still the issue of him going back to his happy, joking persona in 4 from his zombie-like personality in 2.
And I'm really sorry, but if you can't see the big difference between DMC2's deadpan Dante and his DMC1 self, where he banters with and **** talks bosses, juggles motorcycles with bullets and shows a confident, larger than life persona, I don't know what else other than what I already wrote in the dedicated thread to say other than, I dunno, rewatch the cutscenes. Yes, DMC1 has serious moments. But he also has the joking, funny and cheesy side of his personality which DMC2 almost completely eliminated aside from maybe one line.
Most of that stuff was from DMC 3 not 1. The only thing that's present in 1 is banter with bosses
I'm with Meg on this one. Tinkering with the established canon well after the fact doesn't inspire confidence as it invariably never goes well and will only create headaches down the road.I don't like it when creators arbitrarily change timelines after the fact, or really any detail that they have already established. Like how it seems every week J K Rowling changes something else about the Harry Potter universe. This is no exception. Each game is so disconnected from each other that it doesn't *really* matter the order, so just leave it alone.
In regards to the whole formerly non-canon first novel now being made semi-canon thanks to Nico being made the granddaughter of Nell Goldstein.@Lain
Nico was retconned?