They changed vergil's personality too?

[crush]

He said in the demo "Mundus doesn't know I exist. so I would remain hidden until the order is ready to strike." He obviously had a reason why he couldn't give Mundus a scratch.
There is a slight possibility that Vergil himself went to the HQ of Mundus but was unsuccessfull, and Mundus apparently thought he killed him. This would explain why Vergil needs Dante as his weapon.

BTW the order's logo sure looks like an angel. With wings and halos you know.

 

[berto]

The way I see Dante and Vergil is that they are two sides of the same coin. Opposite but the same. And the similareties are not just physical. I very much want that aspect of the two to stay the same.

 

[darkdeamon92/dmc3/]

personally i want his personality to stay the same but not being the bad guy!!......i want them to be brothers who love each other and have each others backs....and those of u who wants a vergil battle.....WE'VE ALREADY SEEN THAT 3 TIMES IN DMC3 ISN'T THAT ENOUGH......never again plzzzz......^_^

 

[rocketvergil]

personally i want his personality to stay the same but not being the bad guy!!......i want them to be brothers who love each other and have each others backs....and those of u who wants a vergil battle.....WE'VE ALREADY SEEN THAT 3 TIMES IN DMC3 ISN'T THAT ENOUGH......never again plzzzz......^_^

no , Those were against the old vergil and this time it is against the new one.
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[darkdeamon92/dmc3/]

no , Those were against the old vergil and this time it is against the new one.
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[V]

Please riddle me this, why does Vergil always get the Draco in Leather Pants treatment

a) An "explanation" is already on that very Trope's page. You've mentioned it enough times I'd have thought you'd have read it.

b) If you are wondering why people are talking about his possible goodness, or why he has popularity at all, it's partly because he isn't a "bad guy, full stop". He is a morally ambiguous character, a Chaotic Neutral. That doesn't make him a cardboard cut out in the sense Mundus is, evil for the sake of it, evil because Satan. He is a foil of Dante, capable of both good and evil acts, or motivated by understandable reasons - at least, he was in DMC3.

It amuses me that just because he is the chief antagonist to Dante in that game he is automatically considered by some players as "evil". And Dante isn't just as vicious in his own way? Dante clearly likes killing demons, and guess what? Not all demons are bad. Where does that leave Dante, eh?

Vergil is a 'selfish b*stard' character, but not an inherently evil one. He raises a tower and wrecks a town, sure. Collateral damage to him. But the only person he actually 'murders' in that game is Arkham, because he was savvy to Arkham not being in it just to help him, and knew he was up to something and keeping things from him. Did he kill Lady when she was trying to kill him? Did he kill Dante when he almost certainly knew being impaled by a Devil Arm would awaken him? Actions speak louder than words. Of all the series' villains, Vergil is the least villainous and the least obsessed with being evil just for the hell of it. If people died because of him, it was because he considered them expendable/inferior in the long run, and that is Vergil's sin or 'evil'. He's not a psychotic maniac, or a literally evil-obsessed individual like Arkham, nor an oppressive tyrant like Mundus. He is Machiavellian, and surely no hero, but at the same time, he's not to be lumped in with the Evil simply because he opposes Dante.

Some people find that interesting, cool, attractive, worth talking about, or whatever.

 

[TyIquan_DmC]

Yeah, I love how Vergil isn't actually evil. He may be a bad guy in comparison to Dante, but he isn't evil.

 

[ReRave]

Yeah, I love how Vergil isn't actually evil. He may be a bad guy in comparison to Dante, but he isn't evil.

We had this discussion a week ago and the results were both fatal and amusing.
Vergil is batshit insane-evil. No point argumenting around it.

 

[Sawyer1331]

well at least now i know that I'm not the only one who thinks that Vergil is not Evil

On-Topic : i think Vergil should have his unique personality that made him so Special in DMC3 , i hope that NT keep that Aspect intact

BTW , do i want to see another Vergil Vs Dante ?! Hell yeah , it's just Epic

 

[TyIquan_DmC]

We had this discussion a week ago and the results were both fatal and amusing.
Vergil is batshit insane-evil. No point argumenting around it.

I didnt partake in that discussion, but I saw it and completely disagreed. People were using him killing in the manga(a manga that was never even finished or really referenced in the game at that) as proof. I just don't see it. If Vergil's evil, so is Lady. She tried to kill Dante well before she even knew he was a demon. And yet no one calls her evil.

Vergil isn't evil. He's selfish, and doesn't much care for anyone else.

 

[V's patron]

i cant call vergil a heroic character or a well-intentioned extremist. Nor do I think he is a mustache twirling douchebag like Albert wesker or Aizen from bleach.

so he is somewhere in the middle.

 

[darkdeamon92/dmc3/]

BTW , do i want to see another Vergil Vs Dante ?! Hell yeah , it's just Epic

what would u prefer more and dante vs vergil again and we know who will win cuz where the f*cking players orrrrrrr on the other hand dante and vergil kicking the living sh*t out of every demon they incounter????

 

[Sieghart]

i cant call vergil a heroic character or a well-intentioned extremist. Nor do I think he is a mustache twirling douchebag like Albert wesker or Aizen from bleach.

so he is somewhere in the middle.

He's either chaotic neutral,chaotic good or neutral evil.
That's pretty much it.

 

[Sawyer1331]

what would u prefer more and dante vs vergil again and we know who will win cuz where the f*cking players orrrrrrr on the other hand dante and vergil kicking the living sh*t out of every demon they incounter????

let me think * goes to a deep thinking * ... i choose Dante Vs Vergil

no seriously i want a Dante Vergil fight like their Second encounter in DMC3 , i just don't get it how in the world Dante can defeat his older brother who has the same power that he has ( and not to mention that Vergil had his powers long before Dante )

 

[Sieghart]

let me think * goes to a deep thinking * ... i choose Dante Vs Vergil

no seriously i want a Dante Vergil fight like their Second encounter in DMC3 , i just don't get it how in the world Dante can defeat his older brother who has the same power that he has ( and not to mention that Vergil had his powers long before Dante )

Not to mention more skilled.
Oh and to answer your questions, because dante is the main character.Of course he is going to win, or do you like an ending like from mass effect 3?

 

[darkdeamon92/dmc3/]

let me think * goes to a deep thinking * ... i choose Dante Vs Vergil

no seriously i want a Dante Vergil fight like their Second encounter in DMC3 , i just don't get it how in the world Dante can defeat his older brother who has the same power that he has ( and not to mention that Vergil had his powers long before Dante )

ok let me think how about first of all mundus mind controls vergil and they fight each other in an epic battle then dante brakes the mind control and vergil is back with his full mind and out for revenge......then dante and vergil team up and kick mundus straight back to hellll.......what do u think ??:shifty:

 

[darkslayer13]

We had this discussion a week ago and the results were both fatal and amusing.
Vergil is batshit insane-evil. No point argumenting around it.

Someone cannot be insane and evil. Evil requires a conscious choice to harm others. I agree that Vergil is insane but that is precisely why his actions can't be considered evil.

 

[Sawyer1331]

this post contains spoilers about ME3 ending

Not to mention more skilled.
Oh and to answer your questions, because dante is the main character.Of course he is going to win, or do you like an ending like from mass effect 3?

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* sees your reference to mass effect 3 ending and goes DT *
ME3 is a different story , I'm not mad because of what happened to Shepard , I'm mad because of damn plot holes , I'm mad because of the way bioware lied to us about ending , I'm mad because of that Damn God child and the way Bioware introdiuced it at last second and they didn't even gave the player the choice to reject his stupid opinion about organics and ... * realizes that this is not and ME forum and calms down *

any way no I don't want an ending like ME3 , but i kinda like the idea of having a bad Ending like FFXIII-2

ok let me think how about first of all mundus mind controls vergil and they fight each other in an epic battle then dante brakes the mind control and vergil is back with his full mind and out for revenge......then dante and vergil team up and kick mundus straight back to hellll.......what do u think ??:shifty:

lets see ... so they first fight and then kill Mundus together .... kinda like the idea ... how about after they killed Mundus then Vergil wants Mundus Powers and Dante wants to stop him , and then again they start Fighting each other

 

[darkdeamon92/dmc3/]

lets see ... so they first fight and then kill Mundus together .... kinda like the idea ... how about after they killed Mundus then Vergil wants Mundus Powers and Dante wants to stop him , and then again they start Fighting each other

LOL ok why not....but just befor they fight...........IT ENDS :shifty:

 

[Ronin]

Vergil could be a part of a demon council. He'd be dressed rich while Dante wore rags. Still he'd better have yamato & a rapier to be a part of his arsenal.