so no"crazy combos"DT a problem?

[ninjaa93]

You made it sound like it was useless, anyways good that we got that out of the way ..

dude..how are you not understanding for the most part it changes color's what... im not 3, thats cool but the function so far is pretty much a free for all "i wont get hit" god mode moment also you cant switch it on and off without doing a super saiyan animation so it can mess up the flow.

now i see that the acheivment list says you can upgrade it who knows maybe it gets better?

 

[CheeseKao]

dude..how are you not understanding for the most part it changes color's what... im not 3, thats cool but the function so far is pretty much a free for all "i wont get hit" god mode moment also you cant switch it on and off without doing a super saiyan animation so it can mess up the flow.

now i see that the acheivment list says you can upgrade it who knows maybe it gets better?

DmC Dante's DT isn't a god mode. Enemies will still get back up when they touch the ground. Nero's DT also has a delay when activated but that didn't stop people from using it to chain combos. Also, there's no animation for turning off the devil trigger in DmC.

 

[ninjaa93]

DmC Dante's DT isn't a god mode. Enemies will still get back up when they touch the ground. Nero's DT also has a delay when activated but that didn't stop people from using it to chain combos. Also, there's no animation for turning off the devil trigger in DmC.

the animation is alot slower he falls to his knees and get back up if you used nero dt it can be used as a pop up, move enhancer and it had invincible frames for example what use would this dt have againt blitz in dmc4 but like i said they have upgrades so who knows. i still wish we had more moves and just combos

 

[CheeseKao]

the animation is alot slower he falls to his knees and get back up if you used nero dt it can be used as a pop up, move enhancer and it had invincible frames for example what use would this dt have againt blitz in dmc4 but like i said they have upgrades so who knows. i still wish we had more moves and just combos

All he does is a split second animation that is about as long as Nero's DT activation delay. I don't know what you're talking about him falling to his knees. Some video proof would be nice.

Also, please use more punctuations.

 

[Razyel]

dude..how are you not understanding for the most part it changes color's what... im not 3, thats cool but the function so far is pretty much a free for all "i wont get hit" god mode moment also you cant switch it on and off without doing a super saiyan animation so it can mess up the flow.

now i see that the acheivment list says you can upgrade it who knows maybe it gets better?

Ack!
Look, the "god mode" as you say it, works only on the small fry, you won't see the big guys floating on the air aimlessly, also the bosses are unaffected of this, and don't assume that you can't instantly cancel it, just because nobody hasn't done it before, that would be major flaw and I just can't see how they could screw us over like that.

And the "upgrade" is probably just maxing out the DT meter, but who knows..

But I agree with you that the floating is pretty stupid idea...

 

[Paexie]

Well, I agree with most of you in many aspects of this games DT.
But I think some of you missed the story aspect of it, too. This is Dante unpolished, a self-taught dude who handles his weapons in a beastly but talented manner. He doesn't really know what he really is and so he has never used his DT before this time in the game.

What does that tell me? He's not really unleashing his full potential he's only beginning to unlock what he can do. Which makes me believe that Vergil can. If Vergil has a DT you can bet that it's not going to look pretty.

All of that is just my speculations though.

 

[darkmanifest]

I use to hate the DT.

It seemed rather useless and really had no point gameplay wise, but story wise it's really important. If they had a real DT, fanboys would probably complain back then about "If Dante's hair is not white, it's not alright!" So NT said, "F*ck it, let's give him white hair, but let's make it so that it has importance. How about making it a DT?" Thus we have this one.

At least this DT HAS a purpose. It lifts enemies into the air and allows you to go ham on them, not just makes you go fast and that's it. I was never a big fan of the DT's cause they always looked so God damn ugly. DMC3 was the worst though.

From what I have seen, and from what's been shown of the DT in general;

I'd rather have the DT of DmC with purpose and actual story elements, then a DT from the past DMC's that's just there to be there, and has no real purpose at all except to make you "look cool" but instead you look ugly as F*ck.:/

Lol, what DT were you using that was useless in gameplay? DT amped up both speed and attack power and let you fly, all while healing any damage you had taken, plus made you immune to certain boss attacks (like Nevan's vitality sucking move). In DMC4 and now DmC, the ability to grab at things far away and haul butt towards them removed the necessity for flight, but being stronger, faster, and replenishing the life bar is nothing to sneeze at. Unless those things aren't available in DmC, in which case DT will indeed be useless now.

That said, I've always hated the DT design for DMC3 (the only thing remotely cool about it was the different details for each devil arm), but I'd rather have an ugly bug than a Super Saiyan. Plus I don't like that I you have to stay in the air to get the real benefit of this DT...never cared for aerial fighting. Or platforming. DmC seems built around spending way too much time floating in the atmosphere.

Not to mention the story element is borked. I really want an explanation for why a being who has no human blood whatsoever is in human form all of his life. What was the point of taking away his human ancestry if he always looks us?

 

[DragonMaster2010]

Lol, what DT were you using that was useless in gameplay? DT amped up both speed and attack power and let you fly, all while healing any damage you had taken, plus made you immune to certain boss attacks (like Nevan's vitality sucking move). In DMC4 and now DmC, the ability to grab at things far away and haul butt towards them removed the necessity for flight, but being stronger, faster, and replenishing the life bar is nothing to sneeze at. Unless those things aren't available in DmC, in which case DT will indeed be useless now.

That said, I've always hated the DT design for DMC3 (the only thing remotely cool about it was the different details for each devil arm), but I'd rather have an ugly bug than a Super Saiyan. Plus I don't like that I you have to stay in the air to get the real benefit of this DT...never cared for aerial fighting. Or platforming. DmC seems built around spending way too much time floating in the atmosphere.

Not to mention the story element is borked. I really want an explanation for why a being who has no human blood whatsoever is in human form all of his life. What was the point of taking away his human ancestry if he always looks us?

He's half angel. Angels still look human.

 

[CheeseKao]

Plus I don't like that I you have to stay in the air to get the real benefit of this DT...never cared for aerial fighting.

FYI they have already removed that feature. The DT gauge decreases at a constant rate now.

 

[darkmanifest]

He's half angel. Angels still look human.

I assume angels look human like Mundus looks human, it's a deliberate front for their true inhuman forms, a glamor or shapeshifting. Even then, all the humanoid angels we've seen so far have wings. But Dante and Vergil have apparently looked perfectly human since they were too young to know how to fake it, and furthermore, have neither angel nor demon forms when they trigger. Where does the human default come from and why doesn't it ever go away?

FYI they have already removed that feature. The DT gauge decreases at a constant rate now.

Wait, I'm confused - they removed the feature where DT freezes demons in midair and you have to get your hits in before they hit the ground?

 

[Azurel]

I assume angels look human like Mundus looks human, it's a deliberate front for their true inhuman forms, a glamor or shapeshifting. Even then, all the humanoid angels we've seen so far have wings. But Dante and Vergil have apparently looked perfectly human since they were too young to know how to fake it, and furthermore, have neither angel nor demon forms when they trigger. Where does the human default come from and why doesn't it ever go away?



Wait, I'm confused - they removed the feature where DT freezes demons in midair and you have to get your hits in before they hit the ground?

I myself wonder where the "human" part comes in. Oh well. I think it was just a way to have the story tie-in with the control scheme. However, I think having only the human and demon sides would have would out just as well, if NT had thought things though.

I would give a longer answer, but I'm not up to it. Hopefully, this will be enough. That was a good post on your part though, darkmanifest.

 

[chocolateghost79]

About the human side of Dante, here is my take on it.
Sparda had a human form, Eva had a human form; therefore creating a stable human form in Dante.

 

[CheeseKao]

Wait, I'm confused - they removed the feature where DT freezes demons in midair and you have to get your hits in before they hit the ground?

In the past builds of the game, the DT lasts X seconds on the ground and more than X seconds when in the air. Now, the DT lasts X second both on the ground and in the air. Therefore, you can rest on your worries about having to stay in the air to get the most out of the DT.

 

[darkmanifest]

In the past builds of the game, the DT lasts X seconds on the ground and more than X seconds when in the air. Now, the DT lasts X second both on the ground and in the air. Therefore, you can rest on your worries about having to stay in the air to get the most out of the DT.

Thanks, that's great to hear.

I myself wonder where the "human" part comes in. Oh well. I think it was just a way to have the story tie-in with the control scheme. However, I think having only the human and demon sides would have would out just as well, if NT had thought things though.

I would give a longer answer, but I'm not up to it. Hopefully, this will be enough. That was a good post on your part though, darkmanifest.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, if how it fit the story was an afterthought to the system they had worked out. Even the whole "light versus dark" metaphor they're pushing so hard worked fine with humans and demons. It's confusing, but not a dealbreaker, depending on how they explain it. And thanks. ^^

About the human side of Dante, here is my take on it.
Sparda had a human form, Eva had a human form; therefore creating a stable human form in Dante.

So because they shapeshifted to human form when Dante and Vergil were conceived and born, it held? Yeah, I could buy that. Still doesn't explain why they seem to have no angel or demon forms later on. Dante unlocks trigger without changing shape, except for his lolhair. (I assume, things could change late in the game.)

But, now that I think about it, DMC1 Dante didn't really have an inherently inhuman DT, either. What he transformed into were variations of other demons he conquered - Alaster DT, Ifrit DT, and finally Sparda DT. DMC2 changed that, since none of Dante's weapons had anything to do with his DT, and then DMC3 and 4 more or less kept it up. If DmC is going back to making it so his DT is just him incarnating the nature of his demon or angel weapons, then I guess there's a basis for it. I'll miss freakshow Dante, though.

 

[chocolateghost79]

So because they shapeshifted to human form when Dante and Vergil were conceived and born, it held? Yeah, I could buy that. Still doesn't explain why they seem to have no angel or demon forms later on. Dante unlocks trigger without changing shape, except for his lolhair. (I assume, things could change late in the game.)

But, now that I think about it, DMC1 Dante didn't really have an inherently inhuman DT, either. What he transformed into were variations of other demons he conquered - Alaster DT, Ifrit DT, and finally Sparda DT. DMC2 changed that, since none of Dante's weapons had anything to do with his DT, and then DMC3 and 4 more or less kept it up. If DmC is going back to making it so his DT is just him incarnating the nature of his demon or angel weapons, then I guess there's a basis for it. I'll miss freakshow Dante, though.

Hmmm that could be pretty interesting. I really hope Dante can take advantage of his demon and angel sides like you mentioned.

 

[aoshi]

Lol, what DT were you using that was useless in gameplay? DT amped up both speed and attack power and let you fly, all while healing any damage you had taken, plus made you immune to certain boss attacks (like Nevan's vitality sucking move). In DMC4 and now DmC, the ability to grab at things far away and haul butt towards them removed the necessity for flight, but being stronger, faster, and replenishing the life bar is nothing to sneeze at. Unless those things aren't available in DmC, in which case DT will indeed be useless now.

That said, I've always hated the DT design for DMC3 (the only thing remotely cool about it was the different details for each devil arm), but I'd rather have an ugly bug than a Super Saiyan. Plus I don't like that I you have to stay in the air to get the real benefit of this DT...never cared for aerial fighting. Or platforming. DmC seems built around spending way too much time floating in the atmosphere.

Not to mention the story element is borked. I really want an explanation for why a being who has no human blood whatsoever is in human form all of his life. What was the point of taking away his human ancestry if he always looks us?

Good points about the DT in the past games. At the beginning of DMC 3, when Dante gets his DT , we do not realize its true power cuz it was really short with increased speed that can hardly be noticed. But after upgrading the DT, it sure was more powerful than any devil arms themselves , besides royalguard release ofcourse. Charging DT and releasing them at right time was one of the best gameplay elements that i did not find in any other games. I exploited that ability to the fullest in DMD mode. Without which, I don't think i would have survived boss battles in this game except for the second part of arkham battle.

In DMC 4, DT complimented devil arms and style by adding extra attacks or increasing the impact of the attack from devil's arm which was also good IMO, distortion as it is called. Also enjoyed an extra sky star, air tricks and air hikes.

This new DT, tossing enemies in the air?????????? Don't really think its "demonic".

 

[chocolatepanda]

So because they shapeshifted to human form when Dante and Vergil were conceived and born, it held? Yeah, I could buy that. Still doesn't explain why they seem to have no angel or demon forms later on. Dante unlocks trigger without changing shape, except for his lolhair. (I assume, things could change late in the game.)

Actually there's no proof that the forms Sparda and Eva took weren't their natural forms to begin with. Angels tend to look like humans with wings and high ranking demons tend to take on human forms while transforming to use their full power but since Dante and Virgil are half of each they may have just inherited the natural human form without the extra properties of each like how he doesnt have angel wings but he can glide short distances like.

 

[TWOxACROSS]

Another point to DmC's Devil Trigger having story relevance: when Dante uses his Devil Trigger, he's gaining a small amount of control over the Malice in Limbo. That's why small fry are launched into the air by spout of concrete that shoots up underneath them, and why gravity gets borked. DT will open up certain other effects against bosses, but they vary between them.

It all comes back to how the dimension of Limbo is twisted into those crazy environments because of Malice. The boss (a powerful demon) usually has considerable control over it, and uses it to change the environment. When Dante DT's he's tapping into his power to wrest control of Malice for a bit. It's essentially Dante's way of fighting back against the world itself.

I'm curious to see what DT can do to Demonic Shards...