Recurring characters in DmC

[berto]

Sure there is. Reboot also implies reset. There are no rules to what can or can't be in the reboot. Trish can be there for the same reason as DMC1 or for another altogether. Why wouldn't she be allowed in? In the original Vergil and Dante were at odds, if that is Vergil's voice then hey are on the same side tis time around, there is another majorchange.

 

[Jane Sweetbee]

but this isn't a prequel. it has no links to the original canon. so trish could definitely make an appearance.

They don't need a direct prequel to close any further possibility of story development. Reboot does the same thing as prequel. Casino Royale, a reboot of James Bond series, is based on the first novel of James Bond which details the early years of Bond when he was not yet an agent. It is technically a prequel. Tameem made reference to James Bond reboot as an inspiration of DMC reboot. How many times Batman has been rebooted, countless? It never changes Bruce's background, but bringing into many new elements from the current era.

 

[chocolateghost79]

They don't need a direct prequel to close any further possibility of story development. Reboot does the same thing as prequel. Casino Royale, a reboot of James Bond series, is based on the first novel of James Bond which details the early years of Bond when he was not yet an agent. It is technically a prequel. Tameem made reference to James Bond reboot as an inspiration of DMC reboot. How many times Batman has been rebooted, countless? It never changes Bruce's background, but bringing into many new elements from the current era.

yes i understand but i'm just saying that this dmc game has nothing to do with the original canon as has been stated numerous times.

 

[Jane Sweetbee]

Sure there is. Reboot also implies reset. There are no rules to what can or can't be in the reboot. Trish can be there for the same reason as DMC1 or for another altogether. Why wouldn't she be allowed in? In the original Vergil and Dante were at odds, if that is Vergil's voice then hey are on the same side tis time around, there is another majorchange.

Trish is only meaningful when Dante make reference from her to his mother. When Dante is unaware of his own mother (he doesn't know who his mom is now), there is no place for Trish in the storyline. Trish in DMC4 is a meaningless existence, as you can see.

 

[Jane Sweetbee]

yes i understand but i'm just saying that this dmc game has nothing to do with the original canon as has been stated numerous times.

of course it has. It is an indirect prequel and you are not gonna to see Capcom making another prequel for so called "original Dante". This is the only chance for you to see Dante's early years from this reboot/prequel somewhat.

 

[chocolateghost79]

of course it has. It is an indirect prequel and you are not gonna to see Capcom making another prequel for so called "original Dante". This is only chance for you to see Dante's early years from this reboot/prequel somewhat.

i understand that you are saying that in a sense this is a prequel because it's the earliest we've seen dante, but it's not literally a prequel of any kind because it has nothing to do with the original canon as stated by tameem and alex jones.

 

[Jane Sweetbee]

i understand that you are saying that in a sense this is a prequel because it's the earliest we've seen dante, but it's not literally a prequel of any kind because it has nothing to do with the original canon as stated by tameem and alex jones.

I don't think it is a big concern. The so called "existing canon" is even not consistent in itself. Ruben said a while ago DMC3 is actually a reboot, which creates Dante's early years contradicting to DMC1's setting. Technically, all other DMC games do not fit with the original storyline of DMC1.

 

[chocolateghost79]

I don't think it is a big concern. The so called "existing canon" is even not consistent in itself. Ruben said a while ago DMC3 is actually a reboot, which creates Dante's early years contradicting to DMC1's setting. Technically, all other DMC games do not fit with the original storyline of DMC1.

yeah that's true the storyline is pretty inconsistent in the dmc universe lol but i guess we should get back on topic

 

[mrrandomlulz]

Devil May Cry getting a decent canon is like Avenue Q making a bad song, it's not gonna happen,
Can I turn this into a pony thread now?

 

[Dante47]

If Ninja Theory creates the rest of the Devil May Cry games, there might be a good chance of decent or excellent continuity.

 

[DragonMaster2010]

Devil May Cry getting a decent canon is like Avenue Q making a bad song, it's not gonna happen,
Can I turn this into a pony thread now?

 

[V's patron]

Your ideas for Nero are very interesting.

Lucia's only real charicterization was her self-hatred after discovering that she was a demon made by Arius she has to be a demon and hate herself for to be the same charicter (a self hating angel seems very unlikely). Trish could be an angel as long as she looks like Eva and starts as Dante's enemy. Lady definitely needs to stay human.

Beryl should be included she was an interesting charicter.

Patty's role was to annoy Dante and provide comic relief and Kyrie's role was to provide emotional support and motivation to Nero. Putting them in combat roles wouldn't fit the charicters. The appropriate role for them would be to to stay at the group's base and take care of the injured. It isn't as cool a role but it is still very important.

If you have other ideas I would be interested in hearing about them.

Thanks.

You gave me an idea on what to do with Lucia and Arius and Matier. Basically she is a half-demon and the daughter of Arius who was a human turned demon.I'm interested in seeing how a human turned demon would be treated in demon society and that's means Lucia probably didn't have a good childhood. Both sides of her family are freaks now as her mom was from the Vie Di marli which are a nomadic and reclusive demon clan that is scorned by conventional demons for some reason.

Arius decided to give his daughter a better life so he spent most of his time getting in good with the higher ups in demon society, eventually becoming one of the higher council tasked with being one of their representative on earth. He manage to talk the Vie di marli to come out of seclusion which unfortunately got Lucia's mom killed. Matier, Lucia's grandmother
decides to go back into hiding. Lucia is stuck between a rock and a hard place, trying to figure out what her path is gonna be and disagreeing with both sides. That puts her in path to agree with Dante and help him and the terrorists out.

I dislike trish so i'll get back to you.

I think I would give beryl some kind of power just to make lady the only regular human or vice versa. Even if we dont give one of them superpowers, We got to give her some kind of gimmick to make her stand out. If they both do the same things and act the same than why should we have both.

I'm pretty sure we can flesh out Patty and Kyrie more than what they where. This reboot is about giving the series a fresh start so we should do more.

Patty is a witch and her role would be similar to kat's so we would just use her. She isn't a offensive fighter as her abilities aren't straightforward and she also has her demon controlling ability.

Kyrie is similarly powered and has combat expierence. The order of the sword is still around and she was one of its members.

@788masri- well we can use both our ideas. vergil has a kid and names him after my nero pitch.

@dragonmaster2010- try jin instead.

 

[Sparda's rejected son]

I hope they make Yamato a fusion of a rapier and a katana.


or maybe a sword like Juzo from samurai sentai shinkenger. Sparda's degected son knows what I mean.

Are you mad?! By posting a photo of Juzo you've doomed the whole forums!!!!!
Save us Takeru!!! (Note: Takeru is the guy in the middle with the really white shirt within my Sig)
TOPIC: the voice in the beginning of the trailer is just Dante's "schizophrenia."

 

[Jane Sweetbee]

yeah that's true the storyline is pretty inconsistent in the dmc universe lol but i guess we should get back on topic

Yes, character development is more important than arguing "canon" or not.
I am waiting for a sound story for Dante in DmC. I think it will fit somewhat in what we've known about Dante in previous games, but inject a fresh flavor.

 

[darkslayer13]

Thanks.

You gave me an idea on what to do with Lucia and Arius and Matier. Basically she is a half-demon and the daughter of Arius who was a human turned demon.I'm interested in seeing how a human turned demon would be treated in demon society and that's means Lucia probably didn't have a good childhood. Both sides of her family are freaks now as her mom was from the Vie Di marli which are a nomadic and reclusive demon clan that is scorned by conventional demons for some reason.

Arius decided to give his daughter a better life so he spent most of his time getting in good with the higher ups in demon society, eventually becoming one of the higher council tasked with being one of their representative on earth. He manage to talk the Vie di marli to come out of seclusion which unfortunately got Lucia's mom killed. Matier, Lucia's grandmother
decides to go back into hiding. Lucia is stuck between a rock and a hard place, trying to figure out what her path is gonna be and disagreeing with both sides. That puts her in path to agree with Dante and help him and the terrorists out.

I dislike trish so i'll get back to you.

I think I would give beryl some kind of power just to make lady the only regular human or vice versa. Even if we dont give one of them superpowers, We got to give her some kind of gimmick to make her stand out. If they both do the same things and act the same than why should we have both.

I'm pretty sure we can flesh out Patty and Kyrie more than what they where. This reboot is about giving the series a fresh start so we should do more.

Patty is a witch and her role would be similar to kat's so we would just use her. She isn't a offensive fighter as her abilities aren't straightforward and she also has her demon controlling ability.

Kyrie is similarly powered and has combat expierence. The order of the sword is still around and she was one of its members.

@788masri- well we can use both our ideas. vergil has a kid and names him after my nero pitch.

@dragonmaster2010- try jin instead.

Your idea for Lucia is interesting.

Beryl already has a gimmick to make her stand out she has a scar that reacts to demonic energy.(that and the fact that she uses an anti-tank rifle in a series where the main charicters tend to prefer pistols)

Kat fills Kat's role there is no reason to put another charicter in that role and Patty doesn't fit that type of role anyway

To "flesh out" a charicter means building up from their established personality not compleatly replacing it. Kyrie is kind, caring, and supportive but not a fighter. Devil May Cry has more than enough female charicters in battle it can survive having a few that help in a different way.

 

[Vezild]

I think it's Vergil, the Demon Scum (lol) already calls Dante "Son of Sparda" in what will probably be really early in the game (he didn't ever have the grapple yet), so I don't think Mundus doesn't know Sparda exists, but it would make for an interesting plot that the villain doesn't know about the other Son of Sparda, the one that can strike them when they have their guard low because they're all focusing on Dante. Plus, Vergil being Dante's "mentor" would be faithful to Alighieri's book, and I don't think they would go with the Evil Twin plot once again.

I agree with this one.
Vergil was Dante's mentor and guide through hell in the Divine Comedy, and during the epic, Dante learned things about himself as a sinner and as a worshipper of God.
I don't know about you guys, but I think that Limbo, being the realm of demons, is just a taste of what Hell, the Demon Realm, could be like.
So I say it could be Vergil talking to Dante.

 

[slenon44]

I really hope they don't just slap on past characters just for the sake of having them on there (ala Trish/Lady/ even Dante in DMC4). It's a really young Dante so, despite it being a reboot I don't see why they'd put Nero specifically, unless it's like some little kid/baby or something subtle, doesn't make sense to me at least. They did reboot it for some reason after DMC4. Just my opinion.

I think at the most Vergil has to be in it in some way, does feel like they're going with a bit of the divine comedy vibe. It is a reboot though so while it's pretty damn sweet to hear Mundus' name in that trailer, I wouldn't be surprised if they introduced some brand new characters; every game did that before anyways.

 

[788Masri]

I don't know about you guys, but I think that Limbo, being the realm of demons, is just a taste of what Hell, the Demon Realm, could be like.
So I say it could be Vergil talking to Dante.

well i think limbo may be an in-between of hell and earth. like how limbo is meant to be between heaven and hell. hence the name. if true i think it could have been created by sparda as a way of pulling any demons that try to enter the real world into somewhere they cant do that much damage. so the demons want Dante so they can use his powers of sparda to open a gateway from hell to earth or pull humans into limbo where demons CAN hurt them.

 

[Jane Sweetbee]

I really hope they don't just slap on past characters just for the sake of having them on there (ala Trish/Lady/ even Dante in DMC4). It's a really young Dante so, despite it being a reboot I don't see why they'd put Nero specifically, unless it's like some little kid/baby or something subtle, doesn't make sense to me at least. They did reboot it for some reason after DMC4. Just my opinion.

I think at the most Vergil has to be in it in some way, does feel like they're going with a bit of the divine comedy vibe. It is a reboot though so while it's pretty damn sweet to hear Mundus' name in that trailer, I wouldn't be surprised if they introduced some brand new characters; every game did that before anyways.

what about Kat is actually Nero's mother? Kat works with Vergil and know each other for a long time, this may enable them to develop relationship?

 

[Vezild]

what about Kat is actually Nero's mother? Kat works with Vergil and know each other for a long time, this may enable them to develop relationship?

Oh God please no more Nero! xD