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XDmC12345X said:
The official sales are at 1.1 million while VGCHARTZ barely updates, so lets all next time wait for capcom to give us the numbers.
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If I recall the sales on that site updates for the first ten weeks of a game's release, after that it's yearly, though the full estimate of those ten weeks will change.

So if they say the official sales so far are 1.1 million then I believe them. Can't have any conspiracy theories if it comes from Capcom itself.
 
Vgchartz is bs.

Anyway the 1.1m sales doesn't seem to have any evidence backing it up.
Siliconera saying DmC sold 1.1m and describes the sales as "solid", but doesn't have any source backing this number

I assumed the number came from the same source as the "solid sales" term. So i checked Capcom's Financial Review, here is relevant quote:

"Dragon's Dogma" (for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360) became a greater-than-expected hit product in the domestic market, which has high profitability, and became an unprecedented million seller in the recent years as an original title. In addition, "DmC Devil May Cry" (for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360) enjoyed stable popularity in overseas markets and posted solid sales. Furthermore, "Monster Hunter 3 (Tri) G HD Ver.", which was our first title for the new home video console "Wii U" that was launched in December 2012, also became a smash hit. However, its package sales were generally soft.
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If DmC sold a million it sold a million. So why say "SOLID SALES"

Would like to see the 1.1m source.
 
IncarnatedDemon said:
Vgchartz is bs.

Anyway the 1.1m sales doesn't seem to have any evidence backing it up.
Siliconera saying DmC sold 1.1m and describes the sales as "solid", but doesn't have any source backing this number

I assumed the number came from the same source as the "solid sales" term. So i checked Capcom's Financial Review, here is relevant quote:



If DmC sold a million it sold a million. So why say "SOLID SALES"

Would like to see the 1.1m source.
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http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/business/million.html

Scroll down to number 52.
That's not including PC sales though.
 
IncarnatedDemon said:
"Dragon's Dogma" (for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360) became a greater-than-expected hit product in the domestic market, which has high profitability, and became an unprecedented million seller in the recent years as an original title. In addition, "DmC Devil May Cry" (for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360) enjoyed stable popularity in overseas markets and posted solid sales. Furthermore, "Monster Hunter 3 (Tri) G HD Ver.", which was our first title for the new home video console "Wii U" that was launched in December 2012, also became a smash hit. However, its package sales were generally soft.
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If DmC sold a million it sold a million. So why say "SOLID SALES"
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You know Capcom is upset when they're describing DmC's sales in terms similar to a consistent bowel movement.

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Yeah, alright, I'm done. :)
 
Why would VGChartz lie to us? I don't see any gain from that. Plus the site clearly states when it was last updated and game sales are subject to change. You can't just keep updating everything to the T every minute. Feel sorry for the poor soul who'd be in charge of that if that were true.
 
Unknown said:
So, it definitely sold, not shipped, 1.1 million then?
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Nah..most corporations won't know the exact amount of copies sold and only gain profits off the units shipped. Its the retailers who gets the profits off the copies sold which in turn is used to order more copies. So if a game sells well at certain (or most) retailers damn skippy they'll ask the company for more.

So until DmC sells more (new) copies in retailers the 1.1 million won't be going up anytime soon. DmC IMO needs at least 1 million copies sold to warrant retailers asking for more copies bumping up the 1.1 million.
 
Stylish Nero said:
Nah..most corporations won't know the exact amount of copies sold and only gain profits off the units shipped. Its the retailers who gets the profits off the copies sold which in turn is used to order more copies. So if a game sells well at certain (or most) retailers damn skippy they'll ask the company for more.

So until DmC sells more (new) copies in retailers the 1.1 million won't be going up anytime soon. DmC IMO needs at least 1 million copies sold to warrant retailers asking for more copies bumping up the 1.1 million.
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It says it sold 1.1m according to Opressed source. So what are you talking about :P?
 
IncarnatedDemon said:
It says it sold 1.1m according to Opressed source. So what are you talking about :P?
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Err...well...ummm....

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I believe DmC is at least at 1.5 million at this point, also lol at haters calling the game a "flop" or "bomb" when CAPCOM is quite confident in the results, sure it didn't do 2 mill, sure it did not met expectations but we are talking about the same guys who thought RE6 was going to do 7mill

I believe the game is similar to Dark Souls, were development was cheap and easy and 2 mill is enough to consider it a great succes, while 1.5 mill just makes it a "Success". Also Vergil's Downfall sold pretty well going by PSN's "Top-Sellers"

Haters can say what they want to me or the game, but I know that it's either DmC2 or Megaman treatment for this franchise, there's no point in DMC5 from any business perspective...except the fanboy one .

Also, I really want to buy downfall so CAPCOM knows I want more of DmC...eff latino PSN
 
Fran0823 said:
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Create a new profile using a new email account on PSN. Make sure you have an international credit card so that you can actually buy the products off the menu.

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Fran0823 said:
also lol at haters calling the game a "flop" or "bomb" when CAPCOM is quite confident in the results, sure it didn't do 2 mill, sure it did not met expectations but we are talking about the same guys whi thought RE6 was going to do 7mill
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And followed for that comment. Pure gold.
 
Fran0823 said:
I believe DmC is at least at 1.5 million at this point, also lol at haters calling the game a "flop" or "bomb" when CAPCOM is quite confident in the results, sure it didn't do 2 mill, sure it did not met expectations but we are talking about the same guys who thought RE6 was going to do 7mill
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I dont think Capcom would say nothing while sales jumped by 300-400k in comparison to their lowered projected sales.

I believe the game is similar to Dark Souls, were development was cheap and easy and 2 mill is enough to consider it a great succes, while 1.5 mill just makes it a "Success". Also Vergil's Downfall sold pretty well going by PSN's "Top-Sellers"
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Of course, i am sure things like studio working on "Avatar" was damn cheap.

Haters can say what they want to me or the game, but I know that it's either DmC2 or Megaman treatment for this franchise, there's no point in DMC5 from any business perspective...except the fanboy one .
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So worse sales are better from business perspective? Hm ok.

Unknown said:
So, it definitely sold, not shipped, 1.1 million then?
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Maybe thats Capcom creative accounting.
 
Alittleacorn said:
So if they say the official sales so far are 1.1 million then I believe them. Can't have any conspiracy theories if it comes from Capcom itself.
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This is really not true. Do you recall a article was made where Capcom said "We convinced fans!"? You dont ? Well here it is:
Capcom’s ‘Happy’ They Proved Fans Wrong About Devil May Cry’s New Dante


I don't know about you but i highly doubt Capcom proved majority of fans about NT's Dante. If anything NT's Dante seems to have gotten a fanbase consisting mostly of non DMC fans.


And where do Capcom get these numbers from? What did they just ask 100 random people or DMC "Did you like new Dante?"
and all said "Yes!" and they went "Yes we did it!"

100/ of over 500K Dante fans (being Dante fan and DMC fan is different) isnt really a good conclusion to a assertion.

Not that they provided any data. They just said they won fans over.

Whenever people claim Capcom are liars or they are deceiving fans, other people trivialize this with "Oh conspiracy theories oh noes".

It's not conspiracy theories. It's as simple as they are liars and deceivers.

Here is another example. Capcom said "DmC will be perfect DMC game and we're reaching for 9.0+ review".
Then they go and market Bloody Palace as a FREE DLC.
You know how bs that is? You say your going to make best DMC game or one that deserves a 9+, then you have the nerve to even think of selling Bloody Palace (a standard content) as DLC.

But i know why they did that. You see good PR is also important. Hence why EA tried to BS people with their gay rights video, and they failed because people saw through it.
That aside, Capcom's plan with Bloody Palace being a free DLC was a PR scheme.
This became more obvious when Tameem said "Here have a free DLC, who says developers dont give away free stuff" on twitter.

If you want to know what actual good publishers and developers are check this out:



MY POINT IS: And this is constructive critism, don't mention "conspiracy theories" when someone accuses Capcom of being deceiveful or lying.
They aren't saying anything more than that.

I sure as hell know VampireWicked agrees with me when i say JetStream Sam DLC from Metal Gear Rising is bullshit i.e a content taken out of the main game for sale as dlc.



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Good pr is important.
Adam Orth left his job because of being a douchebag. He was basically killing Xbox 720p from a PR perspective.

And people are boycotting companies. I know ive seen alot people boycot EA.

+ EA was voted worst company in USA like 2 times. That says alot.
PR is like Karma. If your PR level is bad, you will have people ignore your games or pirate it.
 
Fran0823 said:
I believe DmC is at least at 1.5 million at this point, also lol at haters calling the game a "flop" or "bomb" when CAPCOM is quite confident in the results, sure it didn't do 2 mill, sure it did not met expectations but we are talking about the same guys who thought RE6 was going to do 7mill

I believe the game is similar to Dark Souls, were development was cheap and easy and 2 mill is enough to consider it a great succes, while 1.5 mill just makes it a "Success". Also Vergil's Downfall sold pretty well going by PSN's "Top-Sellers"

Haters can say what they want to me or the game, but I know that it's either DmC2 or Megaman treatment for this franchise, there's no point in DMC5 from any business perspective...except the fanboy one .

Also, I really want to buy downfall so CAPCOM knows I want more of DmC...eff latino PSN
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You''ll like Vergil's Downfall :3 it's not as strong as the main game, but it's still a lot of fun, if more challenging playing as Vergil. I'd give it about 7.5 compared to DmC that I give a 8.5.

And it's great news on the sales and I agree with what you said. I doubt they'll put all that effort into a reboot and then ditch it because some fans complain. If the sales are at 1.5 million, it's not like they're going to stop there, the game will keep selling and if what that user on the other forum was right, it should sell around DMC3 sales. But it's good they don't think of it as a failure, guess we'll be getting ourselves some DmC2 after all. I'd hate for things to turn Megaman.

I didn't know Vergil's Downfall was on the top-sellers list at one point, awesome! =D
 
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