Reason for weak Vergil in DmC (No hate)

[DragonMaster2010]

(This is not meant to hate, because...come on, you all know my love for DmC)

Come on. We all know Vergil was considerably weaker in DmC compared to DMC3. Personally with me and DMC3 he's easier now then when I first played DMC3. But in DmC, he seems a lot more simple and easy to defeat. But then again this game is made to bring new fans in and thus making it a bit more easy so people can get into it.

So here's a stroy perspective of why I think Vergil was weaker.

Vergil wasn't all that strong from what I saw in the back story art of Vergil and Dante as kids fighting. Vergil was the one on the ground while Dante stood over him, but then again that could be like one time Dante won compared to ten or twenty last fights. Anyway, after the event with Eva, Vergil went to a rich family and lived a happy life. He was a genius, a hacker, and entered college earlier. Also he doesn't remember holding a sword at all so he probably hasn't trained in years.But then his family was killed by demons and he has no idea why. So he runs away and finds himself in his old home by his memories poking out every now and then to give him small hints to know where to go. So he goes into Limbo and discovers everything, including yamato and who he really is.

Now Vergil just remembered he was a swordsmen, and as such, you tend to get very sloppy if you don't train a lot. Vergil's been learning to hack and plan out missions, which didn't leave him with much time to train to his full potential. So when he lost to Dante, that was the result of him not training enough. So, now he must go into his personal hell ala, Vergil's downfall, and recover the training and power he needs in order to defeat Dante and become who he should be in DMC3.

That's how I see it at least.

 

[CheeseKao]

Vergil didn't use his devil trigger. I'm just sayin.

 

[Devil Player]

I'm curious to see how they're going to deal with Downfall.

I mean, that can't be limbo anymore, considering that both Limbo and real world are merged together ( judging by the ending of DmC). So, is Vergil fighting in real world? Hell?

What's with his wounded and cut face?

 

[mrrandomlulz]

Honestly this Vergil was harder than his DMC3 counterpart. Not because he was a challenge, but because of that ****ing cheap doppleganger getting in my way every time I tried to attack.

 

[Ruisu]

I agree, if you look at it from a story perspective, in this DmC universe, Vergil is just not that much of a match for Dante.
I really agree, I just don't enjoy it. Since, you know, they did make hype the final fight with him in that end cutscene, and while I did felt it was a 'good' boss fight, it just did not lived up to my expectations for it.

After all, he was the Final Boss of the game.

 

[Vergil'sBitch]

I think the main reason is Vergil always underestimates Dante's abilities.

 

[DragonMaster2010]

I agree, if you look at it from a story perspective, in this DmC universe, Vergil is just not that much of a match for Dante.
I really agree, I just don't enjoy it. Since, you know, they did make hype the final fight with him in that end cutscene, and while I did felt it was a 'good' boss fight, it just did not lived up to my expectations for it.

After all, he was the Final Boss of the game.

Another reason why I thought Dante won was because Dante's background. Dante's been fighting for his entire life while Vergil's been sitting in a mansion, hacking things and being a genius. Obviously the one who's been out there fighting his whole life will be the strongest. But yeah, I don't like that Vergil was a bit of a weaker brother.

 

[crush]

Vergil said in the prequel comics that Dante is the saviour of mankind that is coming when he was asked why Vergl can't just kamikaze into the HQ of Mundus. Not him.
Here are some possible reasons.
1. Dante blood is more stronger than Vergil. Thus his potential of manipulating Limbo.
2. Vergil knew his humanity is getting spoiled by overuse of DT. This is why Vergil needed Dante to support him ruling mankind so he wouldn't go hopping mad.
3. Dante showed Vergil he is quite superior than himself in his childhood. He would have more stronger if he wasn't sent to the orphanage.
4.He is traumatized by Dante in his childhood. (That seemly happy scene has some shades.)

 

[Ruisu]

Vergil said in the prequel comics that Dante is the saviour of mankind that is coming when he was asked why Vergl can't just kamikaze into the HQ of Mundus. Not him.
Here are some possible reasons.
1. Dante blood is more stronger than Vergil. Thus his potential of manipulating Limbo.
2. Vergil knew his humanity is getting spoiled by overuse of DT. This is why Vergil needed Dante to support him ruling mankind so he wouldn't go hopping mad.
3. Dante showed Vergil he is quite superior than himself in his childhood. He would have more stronger if he wasn't sent to the orphanage.
4.He is traumatized by Dante in his childhood. (That seemly happy scene has some shades.)

1- Not so sure on this one. But we'll have to wait for more on how nephilins work on DmC to know.
2- I actually like this perspective, since it reflects the ending of DmC, with dante showing his demonic eyes and such.
3- Yeah, maybe I'm just too used to the "Evil Twin being stronger" thing. But imo, there's really no point in the evil twin if the protagonist is stronger than him from the start.

4- Please no. That could be an awful character development. D:

 

[Dnishe Ebanoye]

Honestly this Vergil was harder than his DMC3 counterpart.

Another "no DMD player" ?

 

[DragonMaster2010]

Another "no DMD player" ?

I assume so.

 

[GF9000000Returns]

Wait....so Vergil has doppelganger as a devil trigger huh? Is it the same as Dante's or a bit different? I only watched a minute of the final battle back when the battle was first leaked so that's why I'm asking.

 

[mrrandomlulz]

Wait....so Vergil has doppelganger as a devil trigger huh? Is it the same as Dante's or a bit different? I only watched a minute of the final battle back when the battle was first leaked so that's why I'm asking.

Wait, so you spend a crapload of time defending the game, only to not play the game

Another "no DMD player" ?

Actually I've never played on DMD because I haven't unlocked it yet, I joined the DMC bandwagon YEARS after DMC4, though the special edition of 3 was the first one I got.

I've only been playing DMC for a year and a half now.( started late 2011) and despite getting my ass handed to me constantly( except for this one, its much easier) I've kept coming back for more stylish action.

 

[Ruisu]

Stop spoilling the game for yourselfs people. Go play it before discussing the final boss fight lol

 

[GF9000000Returns]

Wait, so you spend a crapload of time defending the game, only to not play the game

I HAVE the game. It's just that I didn't beat it yet cuz I have a lot of stuff to do like school and work and only play on weekends. (and will leave for a couple of weeks to avoid more spoilers)

I'm on mission 8 now.

 

[CheeseKao]

Wait....so Vergil has doppelganger as a devil trigger huh? Is it the same as Dante's or a bit different? I only watched a minute of the final battle back when the battle was first leaked so that's why I'm asking.

According to the prequel comic, the doppelganger is a skill Vergil has and not his DT.

 

[Dante47]

I just beat the game, but I struggled with the Vergil fight.
Now I feel really awkward.

 

[Kishido]

Vergil didn't use his devil trigger. I'm just sayin.

He did but you will learn it soon after playing Vergil's downfall

 

[wallenb]

I thought Vergil was weak because thats how he wanted to be portrayed throughout the game. Giving Dante more than enough reason to do all the work. Once Dante learned about his past and how much stronger he was than Vergil, it gave him reasons to protect him. I think Vergil was trying to throw Dante off guard at the end though, hoping that he could get the upper hand on Dante to kill him, because he knew that if Dante beat him, he would show mercy. (well he must be happy that Kat didn't get killed because she seemed to be the only thing that saved his life)

Also, i think Vergil planned on having Kat die when the Order's hideout got ransacked by swat. He was pretty surprised to see her still alive. And when he killed the human demon spy dude without a second glance.

Vergil may seem weak but he always seems to have something going on in the background. But, when he cried for Dante's help, i did kinda cringe because he seemed incredibly helpless. Also he was getting his ass kicked by Mundus......

So a lot has happened to Vergil, more so than Dante i believe and i hope the Downfall dlc just shows how much of an attitude change has come over him.

 

[darkmanifest]

According to the prequel comic, the doppelganger is a skill Vergil has and not his DT.

Hm, then why does Vergil regenerate health while using the Doppelganger? That's a little specific to be just a skill and not his DT. Doppelganger is a DT-specific style from DMC3, same as Quicksilver, and it seemed like they were supposed to compliment each other.

If it really ISN'T his DT, though, then that would take care of what I consider the main problem with Vergil being so much weaker than Dante, that he could unlock his trigger without gaining serious combat experience in the process. It's not a skill he could have just picked up from his parents' portraits.

Also, i think Vergil planned on having Kat die when the Order's hideout got ransacked by swat. He was pretty surprised to see her still alive.

He sounded surprised to see her because he needed someone outside of Limbo to destroy his computer files, and he thought all the humans were dead and he was screwed. Kat showing up was a godsend, but once she did what he needed her to, he was indifferent to her fate.