I wonder if that was one of the things that fell to the wayside like the boxing ring level and "cooking with Dante", or if that stuff was just for cinematics of the trailer and never planned, like people thinking the way Dante wielded his guns = twosome time confirmation.
Prototype and DmC
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I wonder if that was one of the things that fell to the wayside like the boxing ring level and "cooking with Dante", or if that stuff was just for cinematics of the trailer and never planned, like people thinking the way Dante wielded his guns = twosome time confirmation.
Chancey289
Fake Geek Girl.
DmC ripped off of me guys. I wear a hoodie and jeans sometimes too.
Jak
i like turtles
i know. they even stole the names for the main characters. there are two poets that went to hell with the names dante and virgil. how dare they
Stylish Nero
We Dem Boys!!
i know. they even stole the names for the main characters. there are two poets that went to hell with the names dante and virgil. how dare they
I think that was the intent of the original series and same how Trish is another way to say Beatrice (Dante's lover....sort of in Divine Comedy).
Jak
i like turtles
i know. i was trying to be funny...don't think it worked though
IncarnatedDemon
Well-known Member
NOTE: If your going to reply to me, reply to ONE POINT at a time. I dont wanna discuss more than 1 thing at same time.
Dante is a terrorist and is wanted hence its logical he uses hoodie to hide his face.
Dante has been in public without any hoodie on and exposed to police: CLICK
And he can walk in public without any humans jumping him, for most parts demons are ones going after him: CLICK
He also has freedom to walk into Virility despite earlier Bob Bargas showing video tape of the "terrorist" Dante and telling people to watch out for him: CLICK
...and freedom to beat up a bouncer at the entrance of a demonic club: CLICK
same club that he was at and picked up two strippers.
So you'll have to excuse me if i don't believe this whole "I am using a hood to hide my face" deal. Because aside from demons pulling Dante into Limbo and corrupted humans going "DAAANTE!", there is not a single sane human person who said "It's Dante the terrorist!" when he was in public space.
Also Chancey, isn't it cool of you to trivialize my point by saying "I am using a hoodie i guess DmC ripped off me huh".
A idea is similar to spores, it can easily influence you when your in a creative position. Quite similar to Inception the movie.
Just because your wearing a hoodie doesnt mean crap to whether DmC ripped off you or not.
DmC is a video game.
Dante is a character supposed to give off the vibe "I am cool".
And despite the Prototype and DmC trailer is not exact DmC cg definetly gives off Prototype vibe.
When making a commercial you want the watchers to be interest, to go "Wow that was cool!", or "Thats funny" or "thats sad : ( ".
Then you start thinking "What characters are cool?", perhaps one of workers went "Mhm i think Alex Mercer is cool", then they give Dante a "Alex Mercer" persona in the trailer.
Also Chancey i dont mean this in a insulting way but: Your not a movie, comic or videogame character, therefor when someone creating a character wudnt base it on you.
On second though, i think i am wrong in that it's a rip off. The CG trailer compared closely to Prototype trailer is to different.
There are some similarities but it's to vague to call it a rip off:
Biological tentacles
Jumping on a car
Both characters end up to a destination where they kill the "enemy": DmC Demon banker, Prototype 2 soldiers.
And imagine this scenario :
7 characters and they all have red hair , male and have wings and has tattoes.
Then a character designer makes a character with red hair, is male and has wings and tattoes.
Does that mean the designer ripped off all of the characters? No.
How can a rip off happen? You experience something, you rip off it.
Perhaps the designer known of 2/7 of the characters i mentioned above with the traits.
Then it means he probably has ripped off 2 of them.
What's also important in understanding whether someone has ripped off what is:
When the rip off happened (what year and time) because someone living in year 2000 prolly wont rip off someones' work who lived in year 1000 unless the person living in year 2000 had read about year1000 persons work.
That doesnt sound very likely. So time is a factor.
A second thing is the context. Is it possible for a game developer to rip off a gameplay idea from a movie? Not really as movies are not interactive.
There are other important things that you must taken into account before you try to conclude whether someone has ripped off or not.
From a gameplay standpoint if your going to create a game with certain genre, it's possible that you may rip off a game you played with same genre that you loved.
Here is a example of rip off: Tameem loves They Live, and in DmC the idea of propaganda has been ripped off from They Live.
Gluttony is good (DmC)
Tameem has again said he loved They Live movie, and MANY including me can see he has ripped off the idea of "Hidden message" from They Live. And even if They Live wasnt first one to have this "Hidden Message", it doesn't change the fact DmC's ripped off from They Live.
And what does this remind you of?CLICK
This right? CLICK
And it's logical to assume that DmC hasnt ripped off from the internet group called Anaonymous as V for Vendetta is based off a british novel i believe, and NT is a british studio.
And does this remind you of this?
Rip offs happen. From low scale (DmC) to high scale like this: http://bleachness.livejournal.com/446299.html
It's just that when its rip off of a idea such as the ideas DmC has ripped off:
1) A guy wearing mask talking to the brainwashed masses (Vergil, V)
2) Hidden message behind commercial advertisements
Noone bothers with it because its such a general idea that sueing someone for something like that is kinda ridicolous. I mean you know they ripped off you but your chance of winning such battle can easily be taken down by all other movies, games etc that have same idea/concept.
+ Its up to you whether you wanna sue or not. If it was up to me, i wouldnt sue because its stupid to sue something for small scale rip offs.
But i sure as hell wouldnt go "what the hell its just a trivial matter", id go "You lack creativity".
Despite Gene Simmons ripping off Bleach big time, the author of Bleach havent sued. If i was the Bleach author id wait til Gene Simmons rip off comic called "Incarnate" becomes successful, then sue the hell out of that leeching rat.
Thats what he deserves.
Dante is a terrorist and is wanted hence its logical he uses hoodie to hide his face.
Dante has been in public without any hoodie on and exposed to police: CLICK
And he can walk in public without any humans jumping him, for most parts demons are ones going after him: CLICK
He also has freedom to walk into Virility despite earlier Bob Bargas showing video tape of the "terrorist" Dante and telling people to watch out for him: CLICK
...and freedom to beat up a bouncer at the entrance of a demonic club: CLICK
same club that he was at and picked up two strippers.
So you'll have to excuse me if i don't believe this whole "I am using a hood to hide my face" deal. Because aside from demons pulling Dante into Limbo and corrupted humans going "DAAANTE!", there is not a single sane human person who said "It's Dante the terrorist!" when he was in public space.
Also Chancey, isn't it cool of you to trivialize my point by saying "I am using a hoodie i guess DmC ripped off me huh".
A idea is similar to spores, it can easily influence you when your in a creative position. Quite similar to Inception the movie.
Just because your wearing a hoodie doesnt mean crap to whether DmC ripped off you or not.
DmC is a video game.
Dante is a character supposed to give off the vibe "I am cool".
And despite the Prototype and DmC trailer is not exact DmC cg definetly gives off Prototype vibe.
When making a commercial you want the watchers to be interest, to go "Wow that was cool!", or "Thats funny" or "thats sad : ( ".
Then you start thinking "What characters are cool?", perhaps one of workers went "Mhm i think Alex Mercer is cool", then they give Dante a "Alex Mercer" persona in the trailer.
Also Chancey i dont mean this in a insulting way but: Your not a movie, comic or videogame character, therefor when someone creating a character wudnt base it on you.
On second though, i think i am wrong in that it's a rip off. The CG trailer compared closely to Prototype trailer is to different.
There are some similarities but it's to vague to call it a rip off:
Biological tentacles
Jumping on a car
Both characters end up to a destination where they kill the "enemy": DmC Demon banker, Prototype 2 soldiers.
And imagine this scenario :
7 characters and they all have red hair , male and have wings and has tattoes.
Then a character designer makes a character with red hair, is male and has wings and tattoes.
Does that mean the designer ripped off all of the characters? No.
How can a rip off happen? You experience something, you rip off it.
Perhaps the designer known of 2/7 of the characters i mentioned above with the traits.
Then it means he probably has ripped off 2 of them.
What's also important in understanding whether someone has ripped off what is:
When the rip off happened (what year and time) because someone living in year 2000 prolly wont rip off someones' work who lived in year 1000 unless the person living in year 2000 had read about year1000 persons work.
That doesnt sound very likely. So time is a factor.
A second thing is the context. Is it possible for a game developer to rip off a gameplay idea from a movie? Not really as movies are not interactive.
There are other important things that you must taken into account before you try to conclude whether someone has ripped off or not.
From a gameplay standpoint if your going to create a game with certain genre, it's possible that you may rip off a game you played with same genre that you loved.
Here is a example of rip off: Tameem loves They Live, and in DmC the idea of propaganda has been ripped off from They Live.
Tameem has again said he loved They Live movie, and MANY including me can see he has ripped off the idea of "Hidden message" from They Live. And even if They Live wasnt first one to have this "Hidden Message", it doesn't change the fact DmC's ripped off from They Live.
And what does this remind you of?CLICK
This right? CLICK
And it's logical to assume that DmC hasnt ripped off from the internet group called Anaonymous as V for Vendetta is based off a british novel i believe, and NT is a british studio.
And does this remind you of this?
Rip offs happen. From low scale (DmC) to high scale like this: http://bleachness.livejournal.com/446299.html
It's just that when its rip off of a idea such as the ideas DmC has ripped off:
1) A guy wearing mask talking to the brainwashed masses (Vergil, V)
2) Hidden message behind commercial advertisements
Noone bothers with it because its such a general idea that sueing someone for something like that is kinda ridicolous. I mean you know they ripped off you but your chance of winning such battle can easily be taken down by all other movies, games etc that have same idea/concept.
+ Its up to you whether you wanna sue or not. If it was up to me, i wouldnt sue because its stupid to sue something for small scale rip offs.
But i sure as hell wouldnt go "what the hell its just a trivial matter", id go "You lack creativity".
Despite Gene Simmons ripping off Bleach big time, the author of Bleach havent sued. If i was the Bleach author id wait til Gene Simmons rip off comic called "Incarnate" becomes successful, then sue the hell out of that leeching rat.
Thats what he deserves.
Stylish Nero
We Dem Boys!!
IMO its fine to use ideas from rather old myth, classical works, and stuff from long ago. It shows you did some research or has a good research team or is a well endowed and educated person and as long as its done cleverly (is that a word) or respectful as well as be accurate (just using a name IMO is being lazy).
Bazilican
Beer and big tits all around! XD
NOTE: If your going to reply to me, reply to ONE POINT at a time. I dont wanna discuss more than 1 thing at same time.
Dante is a terrorist and is wanted hence its logical he uses hoodie to hide his face.
True, but it's probably tiresome to put a hoodie on and off a model. plus, he's a Nephilim, I think he can handle himself.
Dante has been in public without any hoodie on and exposed to police: CLICK
The police are to preoccupied with the destroyed amusement park. Plus, they don't know who Dante is because Bob Barbas never said his name or had video of who he was until after mission 4. The police had no warrent on Dante until after mission 4 where bob Barbas describes him and shows him on video.
And he can walk in public without any humans jumping him, for most parts demons are ones going after him: CLICK
Bob barbas said do not approach him since he has a history of physical violence and is a sexual deviant.
He also has freedom to walk into Virility despite earlier Bob Bargas showing video tape of the "terrorist" Dante and telling people to watch out for him: CLICK
As I said before, Bob said do not approach him. So no one did. I'm sure someone called the cops after he went into the deeper levels of Virility.
...and freedom to beat up a bouncer at the entrance of a demonic club: CLICK
same club that he was at and picked up two strippers.
He needed to get into the club to get Lilith to save Kat. Obviously he needed to get in, get Lilith, and get out. No time to waste.
So you'll have to excuse me if i don't believe this whole "I am using a hood to hide my face" deal. Because aside from demons pulling Dante into Limbo and corrupted humans going "DAAANTE!", there is not a single sane human person who said "It's Dante the terrorist!" when he was in public space.
No one yelled anything because of how he's such a well known terrorist. Most people don't just run after a infamous and possibly dangerous killer like an idiot.
Also Chancey, isn't it cool of you to trivialize my point by saying "I am using a hoodie i guess DmC ripped off me huh".
A idea is similar to spores, it can easily influence you when your in a creative position. Quite similar to Inception the movie.
Just because your wearing a hoodie doesnt mean crap to whether DmC ripped off you or not.
DmC is a video game.
Dante is a character supposed to give off the vibe "I am cool".
And despite the Prototype and DmC trailer is not exact DmC cg definetly gives off Prototype vibe.
No it doesn't. Prototype is pretty different from DmC. Alex Mercer is an infected virus who's trying to find out who made him that way, while discovering who he is. Dante is a Nephilim who fights demons to save the human race while coming to terms with who he is. There's a small difference.
When making a commercial you want the watchers to be interest, to go "Wow that was cool!", or "Thats funny" or "thats sad : ( ".
Then you start thinking "What characters are cool?", perhaps one of workers went "Mhm i think Alex Mercer is cool", then they give Dante a "Alex Mercer" persona in the trailer.
Also Chancey i dont mean this in a insulting way but: Your not a movie, comic or videogame character, therefor when someone creating a character wudnt base it on you.
Not true. There are characters who are based off real people.
On second though, i think i am wrong in that it's a rip off. The CG trailer compared closely to Prototype trailer is to different.
There are some similarities but it's to vague to call it a rip off:
Biological tentacles
Jumping on a car
Both characters end up to a destination where they kill the "enemy": DmC Demon banker, Prototype 2 soldiers.
That last one isn't similar at all. A lot of protagonist run to their destinations.
And imagine this scenario :
7 characters and they all have red hair , male and have wings and has tattoes.
Then a character designer makes a character with red hair, is male and has wings and tattoes.
Does that mean the designer ripped off all of the characters? No.
How can a rip off happen? You experience something, you rip off it.
Perhaps the designer known of 2/7 of the characters i mentioned above with the traits.
Then it means he probably has ripped off 2 of them.
What's also important in understanding whether someone has ripped off what is:
When the rip off happened (what year and time) because someone living in year 2000 prolly wont rip off someones' work who lived in year 1000 unless the person living in year 2000 had read about year1000 persons work.
That doesnt sound very likely. So time is a factor.
You're thinking way to far into this. I never even said DmC ripped off anything when making this thread. I said they look similar.
Chancey289
Fake Geek Girl.
Are you calling DMC clever? Pfffft lol. Did you ever read The Divine Comedy?
Stylish Nero
We Dem Boys!!
I only read Inferno.
Yes I called DMC clever.
I liked how Beowulf in DMC3 was designed to look more like Grendel rather than a heroic champ (Beowulf) but the weapon from Beowulf was a light element (light....demon) to signify the name's heroic origins (Beowulf being a hero).
Grendel
Beowulf (DMC3) Beowulf
I read Beowulf too....awesome book....didn't see the movie I heard it was sh*t though.
Chancey289
Fake Geek Girl.
I know you are all PRO DMC but......
And there quite a few Beowulf movies out there. If you're talking about the one with Angelina Jolie then it was just meh. Kinda crap.
Stylish Nero
We Dem Boys!!
I know you are all PRO DMC but......
And there quite a few Beowulf movies out there. If you're talking about the one with Angelina Jolie then it was just meh. Kinda crap.
Oh okay.
Ohhhh...I have a different point of view from yours....isn't that ironic.
While I'm at it I think Hitler was a pretty clever man too (I mean he was an evil prick and I think suicide was not enough for scum like him) but the man was a genius (an evil genius) and his leadership and speech skills are quite admirable as he managed to convince an entire nation to join his side.....just remember something from my public speaking class.
On topic whether I'm pro-DMC or not I'll probably still think DMC is pretty clever (I think Bayonetta is clever.....and I don't care for it).
Chancey289
Fake Geek Girl.
The hell was that about? Did I miss something because I'm pretty sure the topic at hand here is video games.
Stylish Nero
We Dem Boys!!
Get with the times here buddy don't you know these thread get derailed like crazy these days.
http://devilmaycry.org/community/threads/i-dont-see-how-dontes-a-douchebag.15875/page-7http://devilmaycry.org/community/threads/i-dont-see-how-dontes-a-douchebag.15875/page-8
http://devilmaycry.org/community/threads/i-dont-see-how-dontes-a-douchebag.15875/page-8
http://devilmaycry.org/community/threads/i-dont-see-how-dontes-a-douchebag.15875/page-9
http://devilmaycry.org/community/threads/i-dont-see-how-dontes-a-douchebag.15875/page-10
Bazilican
Beer and big tits all around! XD
Divine Comedy was clever. DMC is just a cheap parody in comparison.
You plagued my thread with Asian Boobies. I'm so angry right now!
I will never go back to that thread anymore.
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Okay, so I'm gonna look back at that thread, but only for...future reference! Yeah, that's it future reference! SO that this never happens again. I'll view it very closely...
V's patron
be loyal to what matters
I think Dragonmaster pointed out similarities between Infamous Second Son and the new DmC but then again DmC wasn't the first to have that kind of story.
Stylish Nero
We Dem Boys!!
Well granted it wasn't just divine comedy but as well as Beowulf and Batman...Legendary Dark Knight.....Jester/Arkham.
Their called references cause you know DmC and every other modern media ends up doing it.
Plus DMC only took like the names from Divine Comedy (Dante's, Trish, Vergil's, and Lucia's name and their relationship....although Vergil and Dante in DC aren't brothers and Dante and Trish relationship isn't the same as Dante and Beatrice) and well the Circles of Hell (seen in Bloody Palace references and DMC3 enemies).
If anything Bayonetta and Dante's Inferno are more parodies of Divine Comedy since they borrow MUCH more from it than DMC.
Can you guess why this scene happens?
Its cause the fishing lure on Bael and Dagon are well Rusalka which are in Slavic myth are mermaid-demons or water succubus, female ghosts, or water nymphs that dwell in the water.
"According to most traditions, the rusalki were fish-women, who lived at the bottom of rivers. In the middle of the night, they would walk out to the bank and dance in meadows. If they saw handsome men, they would fascinate them with songs and dancing, mesmerize them, then lead them away to the river floor to their death."
Unlike the stripper scene in DmC (that ALittleacorn and others compared it to) there is a different meaning behind the 2 scenes. One (DMC4) is to showcase a type of idea used for a type of demon in DMC4 but based on an actual myth. DmC's stripper scene.........to show strippers I guess cause DmC is set in a more contemporary setting.....I don't know.
Dusk Stalker
" Everybody gets a bullet!" -Axton
For the sake of having strippers?
Bazilican
Beer and big tits all around! XD
I assumed it was like Gloria's refusal to wear pants; Unnecessary and juvenile...but I LUV dem strippers.
