new dante's durability

[Loopy]

optimal state for regen is sleep. if regen do not work while hes asleep then there is nothing to talk about.

Does it really matter whether he did it while he was awake or asleep? Even so, he still heals himself instantly from the scratches and Mundus' attempt to rip his chest open.
Also...does that chainsaw demon sticking it to him in the game count? Or would that just be down to part of the gameplay? Got to say, that is impressive though, having a chainsaw stabbed right through you, then getting up and carrying on like nothing happened.

However, it would make more sense for him to heal fully while he is sleeping....I wish they had bee more explanitory or consistent about that. :/

 

[IncarnatedDemon]

Does it really matter whether he did it while he was awake or asleep? Even so, he still heals himself instantly from the scratches and Mundus' attempt to rip his chest open.
Also...does that chainsaw demon sticking it to him in the game count? Or would that just be down to part of the gameplay? Got to say, that is impressive though, having a chainsaw stabbed right through you, then getting up and carrying on like nothing happened.

However, it would make more sense for him to heal fully while he is sleeping....I wish they had bee more explanitory or consistent about that. :/

Let's look at things from a perspective ok?

What age was DMC 3 Dante - somewhere between 19-22 - correct? Which is around same age as NTDante.

Before Devil Trigger, NTDante displays very weak regeneration (as i just pointed out). Perhaps and most likely the idea of Dante healing the wounds (healing is not regen) was to show that "bad ass" healing scene.
But by doing so - it makes the character's regen inconsistent.

And i cant help but conclude his regen is very weak compared to original Dante. Scratch he had on back was really shallow (it wasnt like original Dante getting stabbed, or when NTDante was chested by Mundus).
However when Mundus chested NTDante (which was after Devil trigger awakening), he seemed to regenerate so easy a critical wound in less than a minute while in beginning he couldn't regen simple scratches over course of 2-4 hours (when he slept).
So i think it's a inconsistency, but one could argue Devil trigger awakening boosted his regeneration up by alot and i wouldn't dispute that.

But if you compared DMC 3 Dante with NTDante, DMC 3 Dante had the same regeneration without awakening devil trigger that NTDAnte received presumably from awakening Devil trigger.


EDIT:
No i dont think gameplay counts. I say this from experience because gameplay and story (character being sub group of story) are often separated.
The gameplay does not answer to or follow the rules or laws that the story layers.
And in some cases some games have some of the gameplay and story stuff go hand in hand but i think thats coincedence or is a ATTEMPT at uniting the gameplay and story i.e making the rule of story apply to gameplay and vice versa.

Assume we accept gameplay feats, then if three exploding demons in DMC3 explodes right infront of DMC3Dante - what would that say about his regeneration? It would basically make him god.

EDIT 2:
The reason why i believe (and am confident i am right about) gameplay and story is separated is because if you link them together then whenever you try to add agameplay feature then the story's rules and laws will say "Hey u cant do that! No magic! Cuz my laws say so!".

 

[Sieghart]

EDIT 2:
The reason why i believe (and am confident i am right about) gameplay and story is separated is because if you link them together then whenever you try to add agameplay feature then the story's rules and laws will say "Hey u cant do that! No magic! Cuz my laws say so!".

Which is funny because Dante's quicksilver ability is mostly used in fanfic/crossover battles. Although the Royal block(which makes you literally invincible in the game)ability is mostly banned since it's really just gameplay mechanic

 

[EvilX-81]

optimal state for regen is sleep. if regen do not work while hes asleep then there is nothing to talk about.

That doesn't really gel as we're talking about fictional powers that the creators have made up the rules to. If he has to be awake or consciously controlled, that's how it is (though I don't rule out that the scene might've broke it's own rules for the sake of storytelling.)

 

[MephistoCarnival]

With new Dante, we've never seen him impaled and haven't seen him get life threatening injuries as much because he's suppose to be more human in terms of duality and as such we worry if he could possibly die, thus giving more tension to the player.

He is supposed to be more human...which I find it weird considering the fact they don't have any human part in them,but two much more powerful origins: a demon one and an angel one.

Dante is more tough than Vergil in DmC it seems.

But besides this,I really don't care about the realistic aspect and how much they get injured and how it's done to seem realistic.This is a DMC related game with devil triggers,demons and such,I personally don't care how much they wanted it to seem realistic because otherwise It would look contradictory,with them being injured a lot,but still being half demon,half angel,they're not humans and such aspect shouldn't be taken so seriously.

I wouldn't have a problem with them acting like it was just a scratch because these characters aren't supposed to act like humans nor to be like them.

I know I said it many times before,but for me,such excuse of 'being realistic' holds no importance or meaning since this is a game based on supernatural,everytime someone tries to make up excuses like 'more realistic' when it comes to DMC or DmC I just have nothing else to say because it's not a good argument to start with.

 

[IncarnatedDemon]

Which is funny because Dante's quicksilver ability is mostly used in fanfic/crossover battles. Although the Royal block(which makes you literally invincible in the game)ability is mostly banned since it's really just gameplay mechanic

Yeah i know. When i was discussing Dante vs X i got confused myself about "Is quiuck silver allowed or not?"
Its a mess really.
I try to accept abilities and powers that are based on the character, things that do not go away when a new game is made e.g rebellion or devil trigger.

That doesn't really gel as we're talking about fictional powers that the creators have made up the rules to. If he has to be awake or consciously controlled, that's how it is (though I don't rule out that the scene might've broke it's own rules for the sake of storytelling.)

Unless the creator(s) have overwritten the regeneration rule that is universally known in our real world (sleep increases regen), similar to polymorphism in programming, then one must interpret the character's regeneration based on real life laws.

When someone makes a fictional universe we as readers try to interpret what is happening based on real world laws and rules if there are not rules or laws in the fifctional universe that helps us understand the logic behind things happening.
You can use the analogy of a programmer making classes in java.

When someone makes a class in java programming, that class inherits all the fields (Variables) and methods (functions) from the mother class known as OBJECT.
In our case a fictional world inherits variables and methods from real world.

e.g when a bowling ball falls in a fictional universe, even though it's fiction, we expect the heavy object to fall fast because that's how it happens in real universe/real world.

 

[Bazilican]

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Hey, I always wondered what does your sig mean?

 

[IncarnatedDemon]

Hey, I always wondered what does your sig mean?

Edward Snowden who worked for NSA (National Security Agency) revealed to rest of world that US was spying on people in US and across the globe through famous companies like Google, Yahoo, FAcebook, Skype etc. Here is first interview he gave:

After he revealed that US has been on a man hunt after him. Snowden left the country and US goverment is doing everything to capture him.

 

[Bazilican]

Edward Snowden who worked for NSA (National Security Agency) revealed to rest of world that US was spying on people in US and across the globe through famous companies like Google, Yahoo, FAcebook, Skype etc. Here is first interview he gave:

After he revealed that US has been on a man hunt after him. Snowden left the country and US goverment is doing everything to capture him.

Ah. So like a real life DmC Dante.

"The whole world is looking for you. Every camera, on every street corner, every police force in the country and worldwide."

 

[IncarnatedDemon]

Ah. So like a real life DmC Dante.

"The whole world is looking for you. Every camera, on every street corner, every police force in the country and worldwide."

Yes, a real NTDante.

Only that Snowden is hunted because he told us the truth, while NTDante was hunted in beginning because he was Sparda's son.

 

[Demi-fiend]

http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/why-nsa-whistleblower-secretly-jason-bourne/

Edit:

I've known about these intelligence agencies watching everyone for years now... way before Snowden leaked it. The only difference was, he had concrete documentation to back up his claims.

Behold: Echelon.

http://www.cracked.com/article/150_5-ways-youre-secretly-being-monitored/

http://www.cracked.com/article_18532_5-terrifying-ways-your-own-gadgets-can-be-used-to-spy-you.html

Wanna see something really unsettling? Then read this:

http://www.infowars.com/we-are-preparing-for-massive-civil-war-says-dhs-informant/

http://www.prisonplanet.com/washington-is-driving-the-world-to-the-final-war.html

Some are also saying that the media is using this whole Edward Snowden debacle to distract us from the government planning World War III.

http://www.infowars.com/snowden-circus-a-huge-distraction-from-world-war-3/

 

[Loopy]

I don't understand why this man is being treated like a criminal when it is the US government who is doing wrong. They not only spy on their own people, but people in different parts of the world. It's their fault, they are spies, but they use this man as a scapegoat for exposing their lies.

However, it is not just US who spies, all countries spy on their people now. It's easy to do it using internet, apple phones, sky TV and chipped debit cards. They know what we buy, what we watch and where we are.

This guy has done the world a favour for exposing what quite a few of us knew about for a long time.

 

[Jak]

I don't understand why this man is being treated like a criminal when it is the US government who is doing wrong. They not only spy on their own people, but people in different parts of the world. It's their fault, they are spies, but they use this man as a scapegoat for exposing their lies.

However, it is not just US who spies, all countries spy on their people now. It's easy to do it using internet, apple phones, sky TV and chipped debit cards. They know what we buy, what we watch and where we are.

This guy has done the world a favour for exposing what quite a few of us knew about for a long time.

what do gangs do to snitches? just saying. USA is the head gang in the world right now

 

[Loopy]

what do gangs do to snitches? just saying. USA is the head gang in the world right now

Good point. I hope they don't get their hands on this guy, because if they do, I'm not sure what they will do to him. Some are already saying he has committed treason.I hope he can evade capture, maybe hide in China or Russia...also I think it's mentioned he could go to Cuba.

Apparently this leak has also caused a lot of tension between US and other parts of the world. I don't think US will be the top world gang for long. It's already been noticed that the economy and power is shifting back to the East; specifically Dubai and China who are taking the lead with producing goods and exporting; all because Europe, UK and US sent a lot of their work there because labour is cheap. Now the economy is failing and they have themselves to blame. >_<
Without exports, they waste money importing; and now the only trade they have is to become a service economy...and the only way a service economy surives is for people to have more children to pay taxes and use services. It's ridiculous that children have to be born for the sake of an economy. It's like brining children into a life of wage slavery.

 

[Jak]

Good point. I hope they don't get their hands on this guy, because if they do, I'm not sure what they will do to him. Some are already saying he has committed treason.I hope he can evade capture, maybe hide in China or Russia...also I think it's mentioned he could go to Cuba.

Apparently this leak has also caused a lot of tension between US and other parts of the world. I don't think US will be the top world gang for long. It's already been noticed that the economy and power is shifting back to the East; specifically Dubai and China who are taking the lead with producing goods and exporting; all because Europe, UK and US sent a lot of their work there because labour is cheap. Now the economy is failing and they have themselves to blame. >_<
Without exports, they waste money importing; and now the only trade they have is to become a service economy...and the only way a service economy surives is for people to have more children to pay taxes and use services. It's ridiculous that children have to be born for the sake of an economy. It's like brining children into a life of wage slavery.

oh well. quick and easy money always leads to the ****ter huh?

 

[IncarnatedDemon]

US has been pretty corrupt from early on. It's just more obvious, and even then tons of people dont give a ****. That is the world we live in people.

The interview with Edward Snowden has 1.75M views.

Meanwhile Psy Gangnam style has 1.67M billion views.

Shows how ignorant or careless people are nowdays. They rather live in blissful ignorance or simple do not want to know more about technology or standing up for your own rights.

I hope Anonyomous attacks all the sites who helped US spy on the world.

Perhaps i should edit my post? Who knows maybe my post is stored somewhere in a big computer which is located in US.

 

[Jak]

US has been pretty corrupt from early on. It's just more obvious, and even then tons of people dont give a ****. That is the world we live in people.

The interview with Edward Snowden has 1.75M views.

Meanwhile Psy Gangnam style has 1.67M billion views.

Shows how ignorant or careless people are nowdays. They rather live in blissful ignorance or simple do not want to know more about technology or standing up for your own rights.

I hope Anonyomous attacks all the sites who helped US spy on the world.

Perhaps i should edit my post? Who knows maybe my post is stored somewhere in a big computer which is located in US.

an ignorant world is a safe world my friend. guess i guess some people just don't wanna pull down the veil and see whats truly there

 

[IncarnatedDemon]

an ignorant world is a safe world my friend. guess i guess some people just don't wanna pull down the veil and see whats truly there

Like someone said to his lord (who he was loyal to) before he rode to a war his lord did not want to particpate in anymore:

"There are things i value higher than my own life"

 

[Demi-fiend]

Good point. I hope they don't get their hands on this guy, because if they do, I'm not sure what they will do to him. Some are already saying he has committed treason.I hope he can evade capture, maybe hide in China or Russia...also I think it's mentioned he could go to Cuba.

I think he's most likely going to Ecuador. They said that they would offer him asylum. It was last reported that he was stuck in the "transit" section of the Moscow Airport (because it's international ground and out of everyone else's jurisdiction).

Apparently this leak has also caused a lot of tension between US and other parts of the world. I don't think US will be the top world gang for long. It's already been noticed that the economy and power is shifting back to the East; specifically Dubai and China

Well... I actually heard that China's economy was slowing down actually. That'll most likely spell trouble for everyone else. I also heard that Mexico (you heard that right) could actually be the next big economic powerhouse.

And after looking at this image of Mexico City, I'm almost inclined to agree. It's actually legitimately impressive. However, I'll wait for more evidence in the meantime before jumping to any conclusions.

It's ridiculous that children have to be born for the sake of an economy. It's like brining children into a life of wage slavery.

It is slavery. Life is probably... the worst thing ever (well, for some people, anyway). I would never bring children into this world. Not even if I were forced at gunpoint.

A Moscow Tycoon (his name escapes me at the moment) said that thanks to "Transhumanism" (combining cyber-tech with human organs) immortality might be possible in the year 2035. So, having children might not even be a necessity someday.

Either way, there are seven billion of us. The population will peak at 9 billion before it starts going down. I'm not saying overpopulation is real (and after doing some research, I honestly don't think it is), but there really isn't any need to have children anymore. Barring the Apocalypse, humanity won't be going anywhere anytime soon.