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DMC's Flaws; Capcom's Reasons For The Reboot?

What Do You Guys Think?

  • Yes, but no, they wouldn't turn back.

    Votes: 1 10.0%

  • No, they really think DMC can't be fixed, so they would turn back.

    Votes: 2 20.0%

  • No, but yes, they would turn back if they thought about it.

    Votes: 7 70.0%
  • Total voters
    10
O.K. This is the best review of DMC 4 I've ever heard... so far. It states my exact feelings towards the game.... and probably why Capcom and Itsuno decided to reboot the series.

 
Railazel said:
Their reasoning is quite odd... Just because DMC was a success does not mean any other games would be. And besides, those games were good, and the fame they would've drawn from their ratings would have definitely measured up to good sells....
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Not sure if it's true. Just my best guess.
Those games drew in good ratings and modest sales but not enough to satisfy cap com.

Well I think fans tend not to complain about MG3 being before 1 since they tend to trust in Kojima and his game plan and believe he knows where he is going which is something DMC lacks.
 
Z218 said:
Not sure if it's true. Just my best guess.
Those games drew in good ratings and modest sales but not enough to satisfy cap com.

Well I think fans tend not to complain about MG3 being before 1 since they tend to trust in Kojima and his game plan and believe he knows where he is going which is something DMC lacks.
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What it lacks... Direction. They just made it up as they went. Sort of the 'villain of the week' mindset. That's how most Japanese action games are made. Ninja theory already knew (and revealed) what a heavenly sword sequel would entail despite not getting to make it. Sucks too, Would've been awesome to see Nariko fight her way out of Hell.
 
^to be fair, DMC did have directions in which the story could have continued in.
DMC3 could have easily been about Dante trying to explore Hell, find what ever he wanted and then him getting out.
DMC4 could have been another game with young Dante trying to figure out how to be a hero. Or it could have explain why Vergil went on the path he did and had that falling out with Dante a year ago.
It's not that they didn't have direction, it's just nobody wanted to follow someone else lead. They weren't on the same page.
 
Tiran said:
What it lacks... Direction. They just made it up as they went. Sort of the 'villain of the week' mindset. That's how most Japanese action games are made. Ninja theory already knew (and revealed) what a heavenly sword sequel would entail despite not getting to make it. Sucks too, Would've been awesome to see Nariko fight her way out of Hell.
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DMC had direction. That direction consisted of Hideki.
DMC 2-4 is "made it up as they went".

DMC 1 had good story.
 
CoolDemon said:
DMC 2-4 is "made it up as they went".
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I think that for them to have been "making it up as it they went" they did a pretty good job on the origin story that is DMC3.

Which shows that they did indeed have good story telling qualities IMO.

But as Z218 said, they simply did not want to fully apply themselves to making a coherent storyline and follow someone's lead.
 
ToCool74 said:
I think that for them to have been "making it up as it they went" they did a pretty good job on the origin story that is DMC3.

Which shows that they did indeed have good story telling qualities IMO.

But as Z218 said, they simply did not want to fully apply themselves to making a coherent storyline and follow someone's lead.
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Z218 said DMC had no direction.
 
DMC3 only fits with dmc1 if you put your mind to it, and ignore the obvious holes in the story.
 
I'm sorry, but the best parts of Dante's tale have been done in the original series. I don't want a stand alone mission like in DMC 2. It told nothing about Dante, it did nothing to expand or conclude his tale and it had nothing to do with any of the other games. Part 4 was vague and proved that story is Capcom's weakness. ( I still don't believe Nero is Vergil's son for several reasons.) The last two villains were just humans using Sparda's power against Dante. He and Vergil (or a character with Vergil's power) fight together to beat them. Argosax...Argosux. Mundus has been defeated, Vergil's dead, unless they both pop up like "Surprise, motherfuckers, I'm back!" I don't see any new ideas coming down the Capcom pike.
 
So pretty much, this all comes back around to it being Capcom's fault. But I wouldn't say they have bad storytelling ideas. Look at Megaman for example, that had such a good story that it held through... 4 different heroes. Do you guys think its because Capcom just didn't put its all into DMC?
 
Railazel said:
So pretty much, this all comes back around to it being Capcom's fault. But I wouldn't say they have bad storytelling ideas. Look at Megaman for example, that had such a good story that it held through... 4 different heroes. Do you guys think its because Capcom just didn't put its all into DMC?
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Sounds like it. Though Devil May Cry 1's gameplay was groundbreaking at the time it was released, the series overall is second-rate compared to many other titles Capcom have made. I don't know if it just didn't catch the interest of the gaming community or if it is Capcom who simply didn't invest enough into the series, but I do think that the new Devil May Cry is the ultimate attempt to change that. By westernizing the franchise, it has a good chance of catching alot more gamers' interests. Just look at all the publicity it already has due to the fanbase raging over it. It is one of the main focuses of the gaming community at this point and because of that, I believe the new Devil May Cry is going to sell well, because people wants to see what all the bickering is about.
 
Railazel said:
So pretty much, this all comes back around to it being Capcom's fault. But I wouldn't say they have bad storytelling ideas. Look at Megaman for example, that had such a good story that it held through... 4 different heroes. Do you guys think its because Capcom just didn't put its all into DMC?
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Not capcom as a whole, just people in charge of DMC. I'm not gonna blame Capcom as a whole for my issues with DMC4, I'm gonna blame the director Kobayshi because he made a bunch of bad decisions. Just like if I hate the look of the reboot, I'm gonna blame Inafune as he was pushing for a drastic western look for the series.

Megaman had direction because it's creator, Inafune stayed with it and guided it for most of it's life.

I don't necessarily know if westernization was a good idea but as Zweilove said, people are gonna check it out because it is on the map.
 
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