DmC: Getting it Right

[Devil Player]

Yeah, the word "cool" has been really overused.

It's something quite subjective, because what's cool in my view, may not be cool according to some other people. All in all, it's about opinions.

It's so overused that even Capcom itself put it on DMC 2 box. They said Dante was cooler than hell. I laughed when I read that, because how can you be cooler than hell anyway? lol. It seems that they stated that hell was cool and that was so damn funny..

 

[ninjaa93]

Yeah, The Walking Dead game has LOTS of swearing and you don't see anyone going up in arms about that. And then they're sad enough to curse themselves about DmC, completely going against their 'swearing is WRONG' rants that they keep I whining on about.

People swear, you swear, I swear, that's life. If they can't accept that, tough.

dont compare the walking dead to DmC totally different the cursing in that is natural and appropriate to like real life dmc not so much and again delivery is key. by the crack whore is used in the game come on now that type of cursing is imature.

I look at it like this while this game is more realistic it still very much fantasy and unlike the last of us or tomb raider which are both alot more natural then dmc cursing wont seem out of pace.despite what u guys say the have been listing to that feedback changing lines in so on so whats with all the cursing is cool dont change it! crap if cursing doesnt matter it should be fine without it right.

 

[Alittleacorn]

dont compare the walking dead to DmC totally different the cursing in that is natural and appropriate to like real life dmc not so much and again delivery is key. by the crack whore is used in the game come on now that type of cursing is imature.

I look at it like this while this game is more realistic it still very much fantasy and unlike the last of us or tomb raider which are both alot more natural then dmc cursing wont seem out of pace.despite what u guys say the have been listing to that feedback changing lines in so on so whats with all the cursing is cool dont change it! crap if cursing doesnt matter it should be fine without it right.

I don't know, I disagree. Yeah it's a different sort of realism, but it's still set in a real life world. You have people trying to survive attacks from the undead, and then you have a guy trying to survive attacks from demons. Where do you drawn on realism when you have themes like these? And it was in an interview recently they confirmed they're depicting Dante like a real person. So The Walking Dead should be compared to DmC, because they both follow the same rules, treating their characters like human beings, rather than those you may find in Final Fantasy or some animes.

I just think in any real situation, and depending on the person, it isn't unnatural for there to be cursing. It's less natural if you have no cursing when in some cases certain characters would say something. That's why I'm not bothered by Dante cursing.

 

[Railazel]

Yeah... I don't think they can please me with new Dante. His personality confuses me.

 

[Railazel]

EDIT: They need a delete button for these

 

[Frazz]

Yeah... I don't think they can please me with new Dante. His personality confuses me.

At the minute I'd say that is the point as he starts off as a confusing character you don't really know and then with each mission we gain more clarity as to how he thinks and we gain an attachment to him because of his change in personality This is just my opinion though but I think you should maybe look at Dante in a more positive light as you've only seen little bits. Perhaps you could watch the first few missions after release and read some reviews and then make your mind up! :S

 

[TWOxACROSS]

It's a bit difficult to completely form judgment on a character until we've got the whole thing to experience

 

[Railazel]

At the minute I'd say that is the point as he starts off as a confusing character you don't really know and then with each mission we gain more clarity as to how he thinks and we gain an attachment to him because of his change in personality This is just my opinion though but I think you should maybe look at Dante in a more positive light as you've only seen little bits. Perhaps you could watch the first few missions after release and read some reviews and then make your mind up! :S

It's a bit difficult to completely form judgment on a character until we've got the whole thing to experience

You guy's are right, but won't you say that we should have at least a basic idea of his character by now? I don't have a single idea as to what kind of person he is other than being an uncaring douche which, I believe, isn't the kind of impression I should be getting.

 

[Alittleacorn]

You guy's are right, but won't you say that we should have at least a basic idea of his character by now? I don't have a single idea as to what kind of person he is other than being an uncaring douche which, I believe, isn't the kind of impression I should be getting.

That's a bit harsh isn't it? Or did you completely forget the whole part with Dante going out of his way to save Kat from Mundus by making the whole hostage exchange between her and Lilith happen, while Vergil was happy to let Kat go to the slaughter. If Dante didn't care, he wouldn't have done that, let alone have gone to such lengths to save a friend he barely met days before.

It's events like these that'll likely shape Dante into a better person, rather than just looking out for himself. Where as Vergil is the uncaring douche, because he would be willing to let someone who'd been loyal to him for years die, without even attempting to rescue them. What would make even Dante to him? A pawn too?

 

[TWOxACROSS]

Well yeah, but we have no idea how the character grows. It's how marketing works a lot of the time. We've already seen a little bit of Dante going from the anti-social rebel to someone who cares about people...a little.

The point is that they are showing you this douchy rebel Dante, but they're hinting at how he finds out so much more about himself, and his past, along with you. They show us Dante being a hardcore yeti-taint, and then they tease us with hints of growing compassion, and seeing how he reacts to things that are personal to him.

 

[Railazel]

That's a bit harsh isn't it? Or did you completely forget the whole part with Dante going out of his way to save Kat from Mundus by making the whole hostage exchange between her and Lilith happen, while Vergil was happy to let Kat go to the slaughter. If Dante didn't care, he wouldn't have done that, let alone have gone to such lengths to save a friend he barely met days before.

It's events like these that'll likely shape Dante into a better person, rather than just looking out for himself. Where as Vergil is the uncaring douche that has secret goals in mind and isn't all he appears to be, because he would be willing to let someone who'd been royal to him for years die without even attempting to rescue them. What would make even Dante to him? A pawn too?

Well yeah, but we have no idea how the character grows. It's how marketing works a lot of the time. We've already seen a little bit of Dante going from the anti-social rebel to someone who cares about people...a little.

The point is that they are showing you this douchy rebel Dante, but they're hinting at how he finds out so much more about himself, and his past, along with you. They show us Dante being a hardcore yeti-taint, and then they tease us with hints of growing compassion, and seeing how he reacts to things that are personal to him.

But what about his backstory? He goes through his life basically indulging in his desires and killing demons left and right, yet he seemingly questions his own morality? And that small clip of him having a flashback of his mom giving him his necklace, he didn't seem to care that much when that demon dissed his mom. Why didn't he show at least a bit of emotion then?

 

[TWOxACROSS]

People who become as abused and damaged as Dante has sometimes have trouble showing certain emotions. At the same time, some people are just like that, and they don't outwardly take everything so personal. The classic Dante never really did either, and there were only a few scenes throughout the entire series where Dante had emotional outbursts.

For what it's worth, the Hunter calling Dante's mother a whore is at the very beginning of the game, and he's probably heard it so much it doesn't phase him anymore anyway. For some real emotion look at his interactions with Kat, or arguing with Vergil over saving Kat.

 

[DragonMaster2010]

But what about his backstory? He goes through his life basically indulging in his desires and killing demons left and right, yet he seemingly questions his own morality? And that small clip of him having a flashback of his mom giving him his necklace, he didn't seem to care that much when that demon dissed his mom. Why didn't he show at least a bit of emotion then?

He showed it afterwards.

 

[Alittleacorn]

But what about his backstory? He goes through his life basically indulging in his desires and killing demons left and right, yet he seemingly questions his own morality? And that small clip of him having a flashback of his mom giving him his necklace, he didn't seem to care that much when that demon dissed his mom. Why didn't he show at least a bit of emotion then?

From what we've seen, the game seems to be hinting Dante is suffering from memory loss over what happened to him before he was an orphan, hence why Vergil has him return to their family home to reclaim those lost memories.

Dante's grown up alone, not knowing what or who he is. From the abuse in orphanages, foster homes, to demons constantly hunting him down. He's had to toughen up, with no one he can turn to or confine in, because no one would understand. Who would believe him if he told them about demons and being pulled into a twisted realm called Limbo? Or the fact he got stabbed in the heart and still survived? They would think he was crazy, he might've even thought he was crazy.

When you're facing your greatest enemies, you don't show weakness. If they see that weakness, they exploit it. Imagine Dante if was being tortured by Mundus for example (literally chained up like in that debut trailer), rather than let Mundus have the satisfaction of seeing him suffer, Dante would do everything that he could to show he wasn't fazed, and he would do this by mocking Mundus in an attempt to conceal his agony, perhaps saying "That all you got?" after having the hell beaten out of him.

Dante was doing this when faced with the Hunter. When it tried to hit him hard on the subject of his mother, Dante refused to show any sign he was hindered by the mention of her, before finishing it off (although I can't recall if my memory serves me right, but I think there was a slight change in his expression when the Hunter was talking, as if he was curious before the whore mother line came up).

Once the threat of the Hunter was gone, that's when Dante let his defenses down (when believing no one was there to see him) and thought over what the demon said of his mother, the mother who's memory is locked into that necklace, the only thing he has of her.

Sometimes to survive, people just keep everything inside to protect themselves. You mask it up with attitude or pretend to be happy, so others don't know what's really going on.

...Get it? :blink: