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Deconstructing Dante.

exactly.
Like many of the game's supporters have been saying, it would be kind of refreshing to dump entire concepts from the franchise.
Like the extremely linear levels, fixed camera angles, and the stripper outfits for every girl Dante meets.

It's not disrespecting the series, it's to make it more accessible to a general audience.
 
exactly.
Like many of the game's supporters have been saying, it would be kind of refreshing to dump entire concepts from the franchise.
Like the extremely linear levels, fixed camera angles, and the stripper outfits for every girl Dante meets.

It's not disrespecting the series, it's to make it more accessible to a general audience.
but most of the general audience play nothing but call of duty
 
Well i liked it but I'm not really a fan of the idea of changing Dante's design as radically as they did because it felt unneccessary. Alot of people in america like anime so they are not put off by characters with white hair.
 
exactly.
Like many of the game's supporters have been saying, it would be kind of refreshing to dump entire concepts from the franchise.
Like the extremely linear levels, fixed camera angles, and the stripper outfits for every girl Dante meets.

It's not disrespecting the series, it's to make it more accessible to a general audience.
Lady_4.jpg

What did you say? I was busy. Fapping. To this picture.
 
Can't stand CoD... how many have they made now? 22? 2000?

Now it's 'Westernized' I'd expect more 'stripper' suits ;P
 
but most of the general audience play nothing but call of duty

That's a really strange misconception.

Going by that idea, no genre other than war-shooters would sell copies.

That completely ignores awesome games like Persona, Skyrim, Arkham City, or Portal.

War shooters are certainly popular, but we shouldn't assume that they're the only games Westerners want to play.
 
Lady_4.jpg

What did you say? I was busy. Fapping. To this picture.

I don't get what you guys are discussing. I'm just happy to see Lady.

Oh wait I'm a mod, I must not spam..err..

*checks thread title*

Ah yes, as I've said a lot of times, Capcom realized through DMC4 that not just anyobody can replace good old Dante. And if his story is complete already then they (thought) kinda had to make a reboot to continue selling DMC games. I don't think anyone would say no to some Nero/Vergil spin-offs though, but well..too late for that.
 
Lady_4.jpg

What did you say? I was busy. Fapping. To this picture.

Woops! Hit the reply button on accident.........:shifty:



So Dante is going to have a new game and maybe a couple more. I don't care as long as its fun to play. The more dmc the better.
I can't stand shooters and some role playing games just have horrible combat. It makes you feel completely detached from the combat. As for hack and slash (and recently NG being a let down) we need more games like this.
 
For those of you who do not get the joke, I'll explain. Lady is a hot- @$$ b*tch and is sexy as all get out. Personally, I prefer her in her alternate costume from DMC3. And may I ask how Trish's outfit is "stripperish" or anything like that? I sense more of a biker chick vibe which caused me not to pay much attention to her until DMC4.

Anyways, not to insult the poster of those links, but all I read was nothing but straight complaints. Criticizing a game is one thing but its another when you say nothing good about it.
 
Lady is a cool character who simply doesn't matter in the fourth game.
In fact: by the fourth game, we kind of realize that giving female characters personalities stopped mattering to Capcom after DMC 3.

Hey, Devil May Cry's gameplay as a series is awesome. But I think we can all admit that the series has weaknesses, as every series does and as every series always will.

The reboot has weaknesses too, but not necessarily the same ones.
 
It's wierd how fans say "things have always changed in the world yet DMC has allways been the same good old hack n' slash." No, it hasn't. If I recall, DMC3 was a sort of reboot as well with a new Dante, and a new voice actor. DMC1 and 2 focused on dark and hollywood cinma style story and atmosphere. Characters were very emotional and had a real personality to me in DMC1. (Hell, I sympathized with Lucia in DMC2 for not knowing who she truely was). Meanwhile DMC3 was more anime styled Matrix gaming and Dante was abit of a dick (Don't hurt me!!>_<) . Fans didn't take too kindly to DMC3 when it was first announced and some hateed Reuben Langdoon for being the motion capturer for Dante and new voice actor, saying "YOU'RE NOT DANTE, SO STOP PRETENDING YOU ARE!!" on his twitter or Facebook page. Then the game came out and everyone's happy as ever for DMC3 and love Reuben for doing his part.

Point is: DMC needed to change. From DMC1 to DMC3. Now DmC is the new change. Sure it's to an even more drastic degree, but still, it's not like a new Dante is an All-around bad thing, right? Sometimes change needs to be forced on people in order for them to get out of that "same old, same old." I should know, change can suck, but sometimes it's for the better.

Besides I couldn't really see DMC going anymore forward then DMC4. Possibly a DMC2 continuation but that's it.
 
It's wierd how fans say "things have always changed in the world yet DMC has allways been the same good old hack n' slash." No, it hasn't. If I recall, DMC3 was a sort of reboot as well with a new Dante, and a new voice actor. DMC1 and 2 focused on dark and hollywood cinma style story and atmosphere. Characters were very emotional and had a real personality to me in DMC1. (Hell, I sympathized with Lucia in DMC2 for not knowing who she truely was). Meanwhile DMC3 was more anime styled Matrix gaming and Dante was abit of a **** (Don't hurt me!!>_<) . Fans didn't take too kindly to DMC3 when it was first announced and some hateed Reuben Langdoon for being the motion capturer for Dante and new voice actor, saying "YOU'RE NOT DANTE, SO STOP PRETENDING YOU ARE!!" on his twitter or Facebook page. Then the game came out and everyone's happy as ever for DMC3 and love Reuben for doing his part.

Point is: DMC needed to change. From DMC1 to DMC3. Now DmC is the new change. Sure it's to an even more drastic degree, but still, it's not like a new Dante is an All-around bad thing, right? Sometimes change needs to be forced on people in order for them to get out of that "same old, same old." I should know, change can suck, but sometimes it's for the better.

Besides I couldn't really see DMC going anymore forward then DMC4. Possibly a DMC2 continuation but that's it.
and sometimes change can be bad especially if it'z not needed ''COUGH'' metroid the other m ''COUGH'' and forceing thing's on people is not the best idea. DMC 3 is not the same as dmc, DMC 3 Dante look's the same but younger and it take's place in the same universe dmc does not and the combat was the best at the time hell each DMC combat was the best at the time. dmc combat look's ok but not the best and it does not take it to the next LVL like Bayonetta and the up coming Metal Gear Rising both made by the guy who made DMC. DMC run's 60 fps dmc run's at 30 and if u don't know the diff between 60 and 30 fps play battlefield 3 and Crysis on pc and then on 360 or ps3 more Crysis, move left 2 right and like how blurry it get's.
 
the combat was the best at the time hell each DMC combat was the best at the time.
You are correct sir.

dmc combat look's ok but not the best and it does not take it to the next LVL like Bayonetta and the up coming Metal Gear Rising both made by the guy who made DMC.

The combat isn't like bayonetta. First of all, DMC and Bayonetta are nothing a like in gameplay, Besides pressing "O" to shoot and the crazy anime style fighting and constant cheesiness everywhere.:blink: . I see nothing alike between dmc4 and bayonetta. And MGR hasn't even showed any real gameplay yet, besides single strikes and a couple cut scenes, so i don't think its fair to say that MGR can " take it to the next LVL"

DMC run's 60 fps dmc run's at 30 and if u don't know the diff between 60 and 30 fps play battlefield 3 and Crysis on pc and then on 360 or ps3 more Crysis, move left 2 right and like how blurry it get's.
Crysis only looks good on a pc. Or maybe my tv is too small. When a game runs on 60fps, it looses stuff as well. And if your running on 30fps you lose stuff as well. And vice versa. 60 just takes more photos of a moving picture more times than 30. Yet it looks better, smoother, more clean. But to achieve 60 fps, you are stuck with static backgrounds and lack of moving objects. Capcom using MTramework, which runs on 60. But its very obvious that dmc loading screens were long and frequent through out the whole series. You couldn't just open a door and walk in without a loading screen. NT is using the UR3 engine, which runs at 30fps, and it allows for a deeper level design as well of detailed backgrounds, that are actually built in the level, and there are a lot more moving objects on the screen.
The combat seems faster on 60fps because the window to press another button is wider. But that doesn't mean 30fps cannot have just as fast responsive time. Look at Batman AA/AC. There can be like 20 guys on the screen and you can break all their arms and legs with suburb gameplay mechanics that is fast, responsive, fun and very rewarding. When i saw the latest gameplay trailers like "the secret" trailer. I was sold. I realized that it gave me the power to be that BA at the very beginning of the game, and that it seemed very easy to use with a lot choices to make while doing a combo, like situation yourself or stay airborne or go after that guy way over there or whoop everyone's behind like DMC by just using ground combos with stingers and hightimes. To me it seems fun. Better than NG and GoW imo.
 
Metal gear rising is NOT directed by Kamiya nor does he have any involvement. In fact, the team that's working on it is a totally different one from the team that made Bayonetta.

In the Combat trailer, Raiden is surrounded by enemies that constantly clip through him. Such close range that any enemy attack should connect, if they ever did attack. All combat movements in a crowd are indistinguishable and messy. That may change later, but for now, DmC is looking much more polished and clean.
 
Metal gear rising is NOT directed by Kamiya nor does he have any involvement. In fact, the team that's working on it is a totally different one from the team that made Bayonetta.

In the Combat trailer, Raiden is surrounded by enemies that constantly clip through him. Such close range that any enemy attack should connect, if they ever did attack. All combat movements in a crowd are indistinguishable and messy. That may change later, but for now, DmC is looking much more polished and clean.
alot of people not just Kamiya work on DMC and is now with Platinum games and we have seen 1 trailer, the game is far from being done and the game look's 10x better the dmc.
 
LMAO Bayonetta is the spiritual successor of DMC someone who does not pick side like gameinformer would agree and Batman AC/AA is not a hack and slash and does not have fast combat like DMC.Cheesiness LMAO define cheesiness in every TV, movie,and game there some cheesy story or love scene like in Mass Effect{ not story but love scene's} is cheesy. DMC and Bayonetta dont take there self serious but still some serious secene and that's a big part of DMC. When a DMC game took's it self seriously we get DMC2, with out that so called ""cheesiness u think DMC would be big azz it is. stop acting like DMC need's a big change, a change but not a big change like dmc, DMC4 sold in the millions, in no way am calling dmc a bad game cuz no one has played it yet and am not going 2 argue noir went u to argue with me Dante's new look is great now HELL i hope the game is great because am not mad at the game just disappointed at 1st and now have some doubt's and hope dmc prove me wrong. I respect your opinion that's all my and everyone's else post's are opinion's.
 
I'm just not sure what you mean by "spiritual successor". Only 1 dmc game was made by kamiya and now he makes another game, and its a spiritual successor? They are both hack and slash, but nothing is really the same. And by cheesiness i mean the constant one liners, the 12 year old writing and ridiculous over acting. Thats just my opinion though.
 
I'm just not sure what you mean by "spiritual successor". Only 1 dmc game was made by kamiya and now he makes another game, and its a spiritual successor? They are both hack and slash, but nothing is really the same. And by cheesiness i mean the constant one liners, the 12 year old writing and ridiculous over acting. Thats just my opinion though.
^this^
 
Spirutal succesor, as in it is it's succesor in spirit but not in name. It wasn't just 1 DMC game Kamiya worked on, it was his creation, and in the spirit of that creation he made Bayonetta and in that there is something of those two games that did not translate to the other games in the DMC franchise, a certain flavor was lost, that's why people refer to it as such.
 
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