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"Blatantly better than yours"

all in all its called respect if any director said that about a movie they rebooted they would get the same treatment why do we act like with games its ok, when you get in business world your tought how to say things. we know political correct ways of speakingfor example, if a show like fresh prince was rebooted but the wanted it to appeal to more people

the correct way:while the past series was very urban so this time we want broaden to a audience outside(most likely to still get a negative response)

wrong way : the old show was kinda to blackish(backlash)
 
thats not true platinum gets crap and kamiya gets crap it hapen with platinum with max anarcy and kamiya well because he gets angry on twitter as if he is obligated to respond to everything..he doesnt have too.
I can't imagine Kamiya been the only person addicted to Twitter.

I find this a bit of a double edge situation. People on one end say that you can't complain about what Kamiya says since NT or Tameen have said so much crap but then it's not ok to be angry at them since Kamiya does it and it be hypocrecy but then it's also hypocresy to defend NT/Tameen if you can't defend Kamiya and vice versa to deffend Kamiya while giving NT/Tameen crap... Heavy...

All this from a satirical article.

all in all its called respect if any director said that about a movie they rebooted they would get the same treatment why do we act like with games its ok, when you get in business world your tought how to say things. we know political correct ways of speakingfor example, if a show like fresh prince was rebooted but the wanted it to appeal to more people


the correct way:while the past series was very urban so this time we want broaden to a audience outside(most likely to still get a negative response)


wrong way : the old show was kinda to blackish(backlash)

That's one way of looking at it. Wow, though, It does seem a bit harsh. I do like your example though.

Like I said, the biggest difference between Tameen saying crap about DMC and Kamiya saying crap about All-Stars is that Tameen is involved in DMC and his opinion very much impacts the franchise whike Kamiya has nothing to do with PSAS so who gives a crap what he thinks of it, ain't ganna change sh*t.
 
Kamiya isn't making Bayonetta 2. The fact is that Kamiya is only involved in overseeing the project.

Yeah I heard some game in the past that was like that....wasn't it called DMC2?

Wait, what? How is that the same? If Dante isn't stronger than Bayonetta he isn't cool anymore? Those are damn near unrelated.
There can be two interpretions in those words.
1. He means Dante could not possibly hit a human woman.
2. I do not care about the franchise that was invaded by my colleagues. And it sucks.

To me I don't think it's 2. but who knows?
 
@Berto But you forget that people that hate Tameem accuse him of badmouthing other developers even though he's just using a professional criticism. Like the Naughty Dog situation people love to bring up in which he didn't even talk bad about ND at all. I've never really read Kamiya make a professional criticism from another game. Its mostly "its a ripoff" or "i don't like it" or something like that.

The reason why Kamiya doesn't get so much flak is because DMC fans like him. Its pure biased. Tameem also can rightfully critique the old games because he wasn't involved with them. And even then, the stuff he's said about them is only comparing on what Capcom wanted the direction of the series to follow which is to westernize. For some people Dante isn't cool and he is too Japanesey. None of these are an insult but just an opinion and that some people actually share and agree with and fit in with the game he's making. I don't know what's wrong with that? And also, he's only said this stuff because the interviewer has asked him a question pertaining to this whole western vs eastern thing. Do you expect him to just stare at the person and not say anything. I don't know why everyone hangs on every word he says. Its just an opinion, he's not the only one making this game. Itsuno's making it to, why aren't we making Twilight photoshops of him as well? Oh right...DMC 3 and that ever present biased POV. It's not like Tameem is in the game or anything. He's just trying to sell his game and spread attention for it.

Also, i find some Haters to be kinda racist as well. As they tend to view Japanese games as superior to Western games and try to make that into some kind of weird fact. But all and all, its just biased POV's.
 
Yeah I heard some game in the past that was like that....wasn't it called DMC2?

Seriously?

There can be two interpretions in those words.
1. He means Dante could not possibly hit a human woman.
2. I do not care about the franchise that was invaded by my colleagues. And it sucks.

To me I don't think it's 2. but who knows?
And those are the only 2 possibilities? Please.

@Berto But you forget that people that hate Tameem accuse him of badmouthing other developers even though he's just using a professional criticism. Like the Naughty Dog situation people love to bring up in which he didn't even talk bad about ND at all. I've never really read Kamiya make a professional criticism from another game. Its mostly "its a ripoff" or "i don't like it" or something like that..
What happened with Naughty Dog?

The reason why Kamiya doesn't get so much flak is because DMC fans like him. Its pure biased. Tameem also can rightfully critique the old games because he wasn't involved with them. And even then, the stuff he's said about them is only comparing on what Capcom wanted the direction of the series to follow which is to westernize.
I don't really think Tameen's criticism of the old series qualifies as 'professional' critisism.

Sure, Tameen didn't work on the original franchise but that's unrelated. If he wasn't working on a DMC title right now it'd be a different story. His personal feelings for the franchise will have a direct impact on the game. I he was just another developer talking about a game he has nothing to do with it'd be a different story.

For some people Dante isn't cool and he is too Japanesey.
I wish people would find another word for this. It's no different than saying that their tacos are too Mexican.


None of these are an insult but just an opinion and that some people actually share and agree with and fit in with the game he's making. I don't know what's wrong with that?
You think he handled that marvaliously? You have to admit he said some rather stupid things. People were rabid at the time and rather than trying a more subtle, soothing, approach he ended up trowing napalm on the fire.

And also, he's only said this stuff because the interviewer has asked him a question pertaining to this whole western vs eastern thing.
Tameen? Wasn't it the dude who made Rez who was asked about that?

Do you expect him to just stare at the person and not say anything.
I do expect people to have some common sence and not say things that will get them in hot water. I guess I expect too much...

I don't know why everyone hangs on every word he says. Its just an opinion, he's not the only one making this game. Itsuno's making it to, why aren't we making Twilight photoshops of him as well? Oh right...DMC 3 and that ever present biased POV. It's not like Tameem is in the game or anything. He's just trying to sell his game and spread attention for it.
People who are in the spotlight are subject to this kind of treatment. You wouldn't expect a public figure like a governor or another type of goverment possition to just blatently say outloud something crude; They'd have a more PC way of presenting their opinion. Same goes for those who get interviewed about their games, theyare subject to public opinion and all the fun tid bits that come with it.

Also, i find some Haters to be kinda racist as well. As they tend to view Japanese games as superior to Western games and try to make that into some kind of weird fact. But all and all, its just biased POV's.
Another double edge situation since there are people who say Western games are superior and they themselves end up been called racist for it.

It's called backwards racism, by the way.
 
Geez the game is in its final stages of development and is coming out in 3 months and I fear a war among the DMC and gamer community is about to erupt. I've never seen so much controversy for one game....wait Bayonetta 2....

PLEEEEASE don't utter such words!>_< You might cause a NUCLEAR war.
 
PLEEEEASE don't utter such words!>_< You might cause a NUCLEAR war.
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Will you guys ever move on? These are the exact same arguements that went on when I was a regular on these boards. Kamiya VS Tameem, Old Dante VS New Dante, Dante VS Bayonetta, etc etc etc...
 
Will you guys ever move on? These are the exact same arguements that went on when I was a regular on these boards. Kamiya VS Tameem, Old Dante VS New Dante, Dante VS Bayonetta, etc etc etc...
Well, they aren't issues that go away just because time has passed by, they're around so people still feel sore about 'em.
 
Well, they aren't issues that go away just because time has passed by, they're around so people still feel sore about 'em.

But you are the same guys going on about the same things. You have already discussed all these things, shared your opinions and stated the same arguements. Is it really necessary to go through all these things again and any other given opportunity?
 
But you are the same guys going on about the same things. You have already discussed all these things, shared your opinions and stated the same arguements. Is it really necessary to go through all these things again and any other given opportunity?
Venting make us feel better, no real harm in it.
 
Um...I agree with ZeroLove. Also...wasn't this thread supposed to be about a satirical article that poked fun at people talking bad about the game? How did it get to Kamiya vs Tameem and all that? *lost and confused and wondering how it got so OT so fast*
 
Um...I agree with ZeroLove. Also...wasn't this thread supposed to be about a satirical article that poked fun at people talking bad about the game? How did it get to Kamiya vs Tameem and all that? *lost and confused and wondering how it got so OT so fast*
I contributed to that, sorry guys. :P
 
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