DmC - What do YOU want? And how would you have it?

[Tony_Redgrave]

Ok, since DmC is going to come along with a new altered version of Dante and a whole new different world with Devils still swarming the place, I'm asking what would YOU want returned from the old games and also how would YOU want it to be. Dante is quite a different character, so everything else will/would probably change as well, to fit the new image.

You can post ANYTHING.

Devil Arms: Is DmC Dante's weapon that keeps changing its appearance depending of the circumstances the new Rebellion? Will it be called like that at all or is it a completely different weapon? Will the new Dante have his own gauntlet-like weapon? So far almost every game had one. Do you want a new version of Ifrit/etc. ? And if so how would you want it? Any other? New weapons? Dante's primary weapon seems to change to almost anything from a sword to a scythe and who knows what else. What could he possibly create? A spear? An axe? Double Swords? Discuss!

Characters: Ok, so we know Dante's the main character. But there's also the mysterious girl that follows him in ghost-like form in one of the trailers. Is she a new version of Lady/Trish/Lucia/etc.? Is she completely new? She also appears to have a single sword on her back. Something that no other DMC girl had up until now. And what about Vergil? Will this Dante have a brother at all? Will his father be the legendary Dark Knight Sparda? And if he is, whose side did he take this time? Humans? Angels? Discuss!

Guns: Dante already seems to have DmC's version of Ebony & Ivory. Dante's trusted handguns which we grew to love throughout all the games. But what else will return if it does at all? Machine-guns? Grenade-guns? Perhaps Demonic or even Angelic weapons? A bow? Discuss!

Bosses: If we're going to talk about bosses the first name that comes to mind is of course the Emperor of the Underworld, Mundus. Does he have a chance at returning at all at this time? And if he does will he be a full demon or a Fallen Angel? Will his purpose be the usual world domination? And what about the others? Jester/Phantom/Griffon/Nevan/etc.? And what about new ones? Up until now we have seen almost anything. From giant insects to tanks. Will DmC surprise us? And if yes, how? Discuss!

Lesser Devils: Every Devil May Cry up until now, had a set of usual enemies, that were haunting us from the beginning of the game to the end! Marrionette/7 Hells/Scarecrows/etc. What will they be this time? And also! Each of those enemies usually suffered an upgrade at the middle of the game. We had to fight the Fetish and the Hell Vanguard! What else should await us? Discuss!

Places: Castles, jungles, cities, ships, the Underworld and so much more. Up until now DmC footage only reveals the same city over and over. Is that it? A city which appears alive and changes and moves is certainly awesome, but are we content with that? Hell no! So what else do we want? What else can we bring back? Discuss!

Items: Devil Stars, Untouchable and Holy Water! dmc-signature-like items. Will they be back? No? If not what else would you have? And how about Orbs? Will they still appear? Are they still the same?

Key Items: In every game up until now, incredible items have been used to open a gate to the underworld. The Philosopher's Stone, the Medaglia, The blood of Sparda, Yamato and of course the AMULET(s)! Dante already appears to be wearing an amulet. And even two of them. One red and one with fangs. Are they the same? Dante's weapon appears to be a shapeshifter, maybe that's true with his amulet as well. And if it is, will it be the key to the underworld again? Do you want it to be? Discuss!

PS: This thread is mostly for DmC supporters. Here we will discuss what WE want, how WE want it, and why WE want it like that. I hope I won't be seeing one liner-posts like:
"I want Vergil 'cause he was cool!" but lots of stuff

PS2/X-Box: This thread is not about theories. You have the sticky post for that. This thread is also not about the stuff that are already confirmed. It's about what we want/etc. So any random post like: "Dante's weapon isn't Rebellion! Rebellion was a sword" will be ignored or even deleted to avoid the thread from going towards a totally random direction than its first intention.

PS3/X-Box-360: Have fun

 

[berto]

Ok, since DmC is going to come along with a new altered version of Dante and a whole new different world with Devils still swarming the place, I'm asking what would YOU want returned from the old games and also how would YOU want it to be.

Yeah, I've seen this done here and there everytime a new DMC comes out. I suppose that this situation is more unique do to the nature of the next game.

Dante is quite a different character, so everything else will/would probably change as well, to fit the new image.

That may be but there are alot of things that I preffer to keep the same from the old games.

You can post ANYTHING.

Anything!!?? Great!
I hate you, your short, fat, ugly and your feet stink! I hope you get mugged after you loose your job! Now, to post some porn!

Anyway, now for the subject matter... Let's get coorful
Devil Arms:
In this case I remember there was talk that all weapons would have both devil and angel forms; Rebellion has the shape of a sword (Standard) a sythe (Angel) and a hammer ax (Devil). Not sure if the name Devil Arms would even fit, but that's besides the point. There is no douth in my mind that there will be some kind of gaunlet type weapon, what I'm wondering is what it's angel and devil forms will be... More to the point what would I want them to be? I suppose I'd want the devil and the angel form to be some type of grapling style that allows you ether slam your enemies to the ground (Devil) or to throw them at other enemies (Angel).

I don't really just want two ether but I'm having a hard time figuring out what I want on top of those. I know I want two one hand weapons like dagers or sycles but I don't know what yet, those sound borring; maybe hooks. Nunchuks are always cool, Bruce Lee made sure of that, so a pair of nunchucks that can turn into a chain mace (Devil) and a whip (Angel).

Characters:
Ah, them people, how we love 'em. There is no end to how many characters we want on this thing but in the end we won't really get them all, if any, but that doesn't matter; here's who I want on the roster. I think it's more important to go with Trish on this one because the original started with Dante and Trish and therefore the new one should, too. Whether an angel, a human, or still a devil she's the one character that should stick with Dante. Vergil would be my second choise but I'm not sure what NT would do to him, even if that weren't the case I think that Vergil is more iconic as he was and therefore I rather keep him there.

Guns:
Aren't toys! But you can still play with them!
The choice of guns in DMC is always a varied one. We've got the standard handguns and now we must move to the others. A sawed off double barrel shot gun is standard but one can only hope that they will turn out more moves than just the chargeshot and nunchuck blast. I want a large nail gun that shoots railroad spikes. There should also be some kind of demonic fire arm, or an angelic one, but not like Artimis and Nightmare β, it needs to do something else, I don't know what but it needs to have a diferent function that aim forward and shoot, all the other guns do that if it's a demonic or angelic weapon it needs a more unique mechanism.

Bosses:
No, I don't think they will surprise us, to be honest. The bosses of DMC have been often times fairly impressive but from what I've seen of NT's designs for their grunts I won't hold my breath. I know that Capcom has said that they will do the boss designs for the game but I still have my douths. As for the kind of bosses I want, I'm getting tired of bosses constantly getting bigger, it's gotent to the point where there are bosses bigger thant the world itself. I do want large bosses but not to the point that it's just redicilous. I'm curious to see if there will be any angels as bosses, though. The one thing I don't ant to see is some of the angels on league with the demons for the greater good and all that crap, that cliche is overplayed and down right stupid. I want to be able to look at the bosses for the first time and say "Holy ****, that's a demon!"

Lesser Devils:
Well, we know that the ones in this game are called drones so that might mean that they aren't really devils as much as mechanised footsoldiers. But in case that they are devils I want more agressive oponents than the ones in 4, I want them to require more strategy than knowing when they're going to swing since they don't do it very often so I'll know when to dodge. I'm hopping for more creepy creatures than these, these look combat ready but they don't look like they couls scare anyone; they're supposed to be demons for crying out loud, these things look like they came out of a factory, not hell. So I want demonic demons and angelic angels, I'm a simple dude with simple tastes, keep it what it is so that when you see it you know what it is.

What occurs to me is that they should make enemies that can witstand certain weapons so you are limited to using others. Maybe, if there are angel oponents, you're stuck using angel weaponry on them. I have to say, though, angels that look like dudes with wings and robes would be borring, so add some of the creative twists to them, make them look not human so that at least it's not the same borring old look.

Places:
There is always the possibility of hiden dimentions where you find items or artifacts like DMC1. There is that one level above an ocean but one of those is enough, maybe a volcano or a subterenial ruins like the ones in that History Channel show about hiden cities under major metropolitan ones (forget what it's called). Maybe even a hunted mansion. Don't forget, also, that there is a heaven and if there is one thing both heaven and hell have an extrordinary thing of it's libraries, I say we vidit the libraries of both heaven and hell.

Items:
If there is one thing I can definitly live without is the Orb System, I can live without the red, blue, or yellow orbs. I rather they used another monetary system than the old one, I'm sick of those. Maybe souls, or demon bones, or angel feathers, whatever, just make it something else. I also want something new from the god of time and space, replace it with a merchant or an angel, maybe that chick that's in the demo.

Key Items:
Keys to the underworld? Virgin's blood. Wanna see how they pull this one off.

Again, if they have angels then lets go all out and have devine artifacts as well as infernal ones, otherwise I'll feel cheated.

PS: This thread is mostly for DmC supporters.

Really? Is that how it is? Fine, I know when I'm not wanted!

 

[Chrysander]

I'll keep it short and to the point:

- Get rid of platforming / puzzle sections
- Get rid of item fetch and back tracking
- Don't focus on graphics, and cutscenes. Get the gameplay smooth and hardcore
- Get rid of red orbs, instead just hand over weapons and upgrades as you go through the game. Replaying missions over and over to get the required orbs is not fun and allows you to potentially get all upgrades available at that time anyway, so just hand them over.

+ Include all previous weapons, guns, styles and add new ones
+ Add new techniques to weapons, make everything more customizable, the more combinations the better
+ Have the main game as Dante, have Nero, Vergil, Lady and whoever as unlockable characters who can play through all standard missions and Bloody Palace
+ Include multiple costumes for all characters to unlock, as well as perhaps some further weapons outside of the main game to unlock by completing difficulty settings - and perhaps share weapons amongst characters for fun (as well as being able to be unarmed for a real challenge)
+ Put in some new gameplay elements that really make combat more interesting such as:
* Close-range grab-style moves (could use up a bit of DT like Bayonetta's torture attacks)
* New kinds of enemy reactions, such as some running away if scared or low health, some having different attacks altogether after being taunted (making them more dangerous)...
* More rewards for continued offense without taking damage - style meter is cool, but it would be nice to have a visual or audio reward such as moves having more flames or explosions coming off them, or a slight increase in speed etc, just so that something actually changes in the game, the better you do

Dynamic difficulty like God Hand - if you take damage, the game gets slightly easier. If you deal damage, it gets slightly harder. Balances the game, and adds a challenge for experienced players.

 

[berto]

* More rewards for continued offense without taking damage - style meter is cool, but it would be nice to have a visual or audio reward such as moves having more flames or explosions coming off them, or a slight increase in speed etc, just so that something actually changes in the game, the better you do.

This one's already comfirmed. The music will start out with a basic combat beat and as your style metter goes up more rythems and vocals will be added to the song.

 

[Tony_Redgrave]

Brilliant answer berto! Exactly what I was hoping. Plus your humor rocks
I'll post mine as well after I wake up (if I make me sleep sometime soon...) and hopefully more people will have answered

Edit: Awesome response from Chrysander as well Thank you for being serious guys!

 

[Asmodaius]

A Multiplayer Mode with several playable characters.
It might be like Bloody Palace mode or something alike, and it would be nice to have characters like Vergil, Lucia, Trish and Lady as playable characters in that mode with their own unique moves and such.

 

[berto]

Brilliant answer berto! Exactly what I was hoping.

Glad you approve. I'm thinking of adding more once I think it over some more but I'm not sure if I should edit my post or just make another with the changes I'll have come up with.

Plus your humor rocks

Humor? Oh, you mean that posting porn thing, no I was serious, I'm still looking for a picture or video featuring two very fat, hairy, and old gay dudes doing things that two very fat, hairy, and old gay dudes should never do infront of a camera, just wait a little, I'll find something.

 

[Asmodaius]

I'm still looking for a picture or video featuring two very fat, hairy, and old gay dudes doing things that two very fat, hairy, and old gay dudes should never do infront of a camera, just wait a little, I'll find something.

That's not hard to find if you just look at the right places. XD

 

[berto]

Yeah, but I'm too scared to go look there.

I forgot to mention that one of the things I want to see in the game is Dante's shadow. In the first game LDK's shadow refleted a demon, I think it did in 3 as well, and Bayonetta's shodow, too (Though hers was a demon with butterfly wings). I want a cool shadow on Dante.

 

[Haven]

Okay, i'll give this a shot:

Devil Arms: I'm not sure if I want more weapons in this game actually. In the past DMC's, a few of them are actually useful while the rest are just useless and gimmicky (maybe I just don't know how to use them properly ). I'd rather have upgrades for the devil axe and angel scythe.

Guns: As mentioned above, only a few guns are useful (Ebony & Ivory, Shotgun and possibly nightmare) while the others are throw away. So i'd rather upgrades with the guns aswell (I think we can count on that with the ricochet shot in the tgs 2011 trailer)

Characters: Almost every character in the past DMC games have been really memorable, and as this is a parallel world I hope we see some of them return in some way. The line at the end of the TGS extended trailer actually reminded me of Arkham, and how he wanted to be a god (or it could be Vergil).

Bosses: I don't want any of the previous bosses to return (but seeing phantom in this would be pretty cool), I want brand new demons to surprise us. The only exceptions i'd take are Mundus, Vergil and Arkham.

Lesser Demons: Well I think its safe to say the robotic marionettes are the lesser enemies, and personally I like them. They look pretty freaky, and I love the designs; this is the only DMC where these enemies would work. And berto made a interesting point saying they looked like they where made in a factory, this (to me) has opened many possible theories. Maybe they aren't demons, maybe they are manufactured by demons in a factory (that strange building in the original TGS trailer perhaps).

Places: Well we've seen some underground lava place where Dante fights that big bug thing, and we've seen what looks like a laboratory (seriously, getting a DMC4 vibe with the town's look and now a laboratory), and that carnival looks fun. We've also seen pretty wierd locations in the demo (that place in the air with chains around it). I'm hoping we go to hell or heaven or both! Something that has been on my might is, will this game feature levels like past DMC games; or will it be one big game? I've never played a NT game (I tell a lie, i've played the Heavenly Sword and Enslaved demos), but from what i've seen on Enslaved is that it seems to be one big game without levels. I'd prefer levels like in the past though.

Items: So far we haven't seen anything that resembles an orb, I'm starting to think they might not be included in here. But as berto said, I can live without them. I would like to see something new that NT makes to help us purchase upgrades (maybe we just spend points we earned in the level), berto included a few in his post.

Key Items: Well Dante seems to still have his amulet in this one, and if Vergil is in this one (and is Dante's brother) then he'll have the other one; so maybe the key's open up hell still (or heaven since Eva is the one who gave them the amulets, and I believe Eva is an angel in this one). And berto once again made another good idea , have both angelic and demonic artifacts.

Thats it from me

 

[DreadnoughtDT]

A Multiplayer Mode with several playable characters.
It might be like Bloody Palace mode or something alike, and it would be nice to have characters like Vergil, Lucia, Trish and Lady as playable characters in that mode with their own unique moves and such.

See, that's what I want. A splitscreen, multiplayer BP.

 

[Asmodaius]

See, that's what I want. A splitscreen, multiplayer BP.

Why splitscreen? Bloody Palace are just singular rooms. No need to split the screen up for that.

 

[DreadnoughtDT]

Why splitscreen? Bloody Palace are just singular rooms. No need to split the screen up for that.

In DMC3, it's really freaking annoying to play BP as the shadow for the Doppelganger. I'd like NOT to have to deal with that.

 

[lorddemolatron]

Im also after having in this game Multiplayer, some badass weapons and enemies, and more playable characters.

 

[V's patron]

Devil arms- I would them to have two different forms, one angel, one devil.

guns- I rather have a few guns like 1-3 choices but have special moves that Dante could do with them by channeling his demon/angel powers for special moves like the ricochet move from the trailer.

Characters- I'm open to anyone coming back so I rather they bring in a mixture of characters regardless of it's from the anime or novels or games. I don't even care if people hate that character just as long as nt has a good idea for them, they should use them. Like if they want to use patty, use her. My only concern is that they don't create unnecessary characters, for ex, we didn't need Morison as his role could be filled by Enzo.I need lady and ark ham tho.

Boss/lesser enemies- I'm open to anything.

Places- I wanna see more of the city.

I got nothing else.

 

[CoolDemon]

Why splitscreen? Bloody Palace are just singular rooms. No need to split the screen up for that.

Splitscreen is multiplayer offline for ModernWarfare.

Splitscreen = Two friends playing against eachother.

 

[darkslayer13]

i think it would be better if the girl in the trailer is someone new but i think alternate versions of Lady and Trish should show up later in the game.(lady as another person rebelling against the demonic government. Trish as an enemy) also Vergil definitely hasto show up it wouldn't make sense to not include the main characters twin brother.

one of the Devil Arms should definitely be gauntlets (with claws for the angel form and heavier gauntlets for the demon form ) and twin swords would be a good idea. (twin dagger angel form/ double-bladed sword demon form) and i would like to see something unique like Nevan and Lucifer

every single Devil May Cry game has had a shotgun so they have to include one in DmC. and anti-tank rifle like Spiral would be a good thing to include. and they have always had some form of explosive weapon so they should probably include a grenade gun or rocket launcher. and they should have some form of shapeshifting gun like Pandora (it would go really well with the shapeshifting Devil Arms).

it would be interesting to see a few of the old bosses (not Phantom he has shown up more than enough ) i think it would be really interesting to fight a boss battle against Trish. and of course a boss battle against Vergil is required.

 

[wallenb]

hmm
Online
If there is any online mode, i would like to see a ranking system and a easy way to upload videos to youtube or just the the lobby page. I never liked downloadable content but sometimes when i'm finished with a game, i would like to have a little extra secret levels to complete, i dont want to have to download playable skins. that should be a reward for beating the game.

Charaters
i wouldnt mind not seeing any character return but i hope they acknowledge them somewhere in the game (Vergil) just to let us know that he is around, but focus fully on Dante's adventure.

Bosses
I hope to fight more human sized bosses because i thought those fights were the best.
I hope there is most strategy in the bigger boss battles and not just taking out his legs or what not. I hope your agility will be pushed further because it seems like this Dante will be easier to get around. And to be able to taunt the bosses to make them change their attacks.

Level Design
I actually like platforming in video games, i just hate grabbing onto ledges and shimmying. I like jumping from platforms with my abilities, i like jumping off of walls, running on walls all that good stuff. I just would like a reason to be able to run on walls, like the floor is on fire or there is a gap and i have the choice to glide across or just run along the wall. I like long leaps to the ground, i would like to fight in some kind of natural element (rain, snow, falling ash, strong wind with debris). Basically something moving on the screen at all times, not just Dante walking down corridor after corridor.

Bloody Palace should take a whole new upgrade and stay away from fighting in the same area for so long.
As your combo meter rises there should be some kind of element to the enemies that make them stronger and i do like the taunt mechanic suggested, when you taunt an enemy they attack faster with different moves, just to keep people on their toes when they feel like its too easy.

Weapons
surprise me

 

[veg-G]

i don't want anything from the old dmc games to go into the new one. new one should just differentiate itself as much as possible so that it won't be related to previous franchise.

 

[CoolDemon]

i don't want anything from the old dmc games to go into the new one. new one should just differentiate itself as much as possible so that it won't be related to previous franchise.

why?