Vergil: Redemption or Tragedy?

[Altercation]

Though I don't really favor Vergil in DMC or DmC, he is interesting in that he is a tragic character. The one thing I wanted to see in the old DMC's was some kind of gesture that Vergil would/could change his proud and stubborn mindset. Do you think Vergil should redeem himself in new DmC's now that there is more creative freedom?

 

[Loopy]

I'm really not sure. He has such a tragic past which has made him what he is, informed his view of the world and shaped his actions in the game. While I would like him to find some peace, the other side of me wants to see how low he can go. :devil:

 

[EllDawn]

I'd love to see that, but at the same time I wouldn't. One thing I'm sure a lot of fans like to watch is the conflict between the two brothers. It would just feel too much like taking something away that meant a lot for the story. Especially if it was done too early.

 

[Altercation]

I'd love to see that, but at the same time I wouldn't. One thing I'm sure a lot of fans like to watch is the conflict between the two brothers. It would just feel too much like taking something away that meant a lot for the story. Especially if it was done too early.

I wasn't thinking about the appeal of the brotherly rivalry. Good point. Well if they kill him off in future DmC's I want something where we at least get to see that his intentions were good, if they were in fact good.

 

[Loopy]

I wasn't thinking about the appeal of the brotherly rivalry. Good point. Well if they kill him off in future DmC's I want something where we at least get to see that his intentions were good, if they were in fact good.

I think Vergil certainly saw what he was doing as good. But he went about it in the wrong way.
I guess it depends on the player whether Vergil was doing the right thing or not. In my opinion, none of the characters (except maybe Kat) ended the game being 'good'.
Mundus enslaved mankind because he believed they needed saving from their own violence and greed when they were allowed freedom.
Vergil saw Mundus as a tyrant and wanted to free the humans. But Vergil also wanted to fill the void left with Mundus' defeat because in his opinion all humans knew was control. If they had freedom, they would not know what to do with themselves, and for this reason Vergil sees them like children who need him to rule.
I guess with Vergil, it also stemms from what he said was a lack of control in his life, which is why he turned to computers and hacking. So controling humanity would be the ultimate way of having control in his own life.

 

[Altercation]

Its funny, when you think about it, with Mundus in control, the people were braindead but were not/could not be physically harmed by humans. If Vergil was in control, he would probably be both protector and dictator to them. With neither of them in power, demons are running around all willy-nilly without a master and killing people. Freedom aint cheap!

 

[EllDawn]

I wasn't thinking about the appeal of the brotherly rivalry. Good point. Well if they kill him off in future DmC's I want something where we at least get to see that his intentions were good, if they were in fact good.

I'd rather not think of them killing him in a future game. lol. I like this Vergil more than the original. I do think he had good intentions. The only problem is he didn't really look at humans as being capable of making their own decisions. I'd guess he'd want to ensure that they would be safe from both each other and demons, but the humans would never learn for themselves. That's the part I think he's missing.

I think Vergil certainly saw what he was doing as good. But he went about it in the wrong way.
I guess it depends on the player whether Vergil was doing the right thing or not. In my opinion, none of the characters (except maybe Kat) ended the game being 'good'.
Mundus enslaved mankind because he believed they needed saving from their own violence and greed when they were allowed freedom.
Vergil saw Mundus as a tyrant and wanted to free the humans. But Vergil also wanted to fill the void left with Mundus' defeat because in his opinion all humans knew was control. If they had freedom, they would not know what to do with themselves, and for this reason Vergil sees them like children who need him to rule.
I guess with Vergil, it also stemms from what he said was a lack of control in his life, which is why he turned to computers and hacking. So controling humanity would be the ultimate way of having control in his own life.

I agree with you.

 

[SamuraiGuy]

Urgh, I love Vergil so much in dmc until he showed his selfish side. I really want him to redeem himself but with the title of the first story expansion, it's pretty obvious NT or Capcom won't make it happen.