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DmC if it was still a prequel to DMC3

Discussion in 'DmC: Devil May Cry' started by DragonMaster2010, Feb 9, 2012.

  1. DragonMaster2010

    DragonMaster2010 Don't Let the Fall of America be Your Fall

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    This was previously posted on another thread but I thought I'd make it into a thread anyway.

    DmC if it was a prequel. (In my mind)

    After their mother died, Dante has hit rock bottom, and dyed his hair black to not be remind that he is what killed his mother in the first place; a demon. So he's in jail, and Vergil comes in to visit him for the first time. (Dante thought Vergil was dead the night their mother was killed) Vergil leaves him and wants nothing to do with him, so Dante breaks out, gets a black coat, gets his sword and guns. Somewhere after he breaks out, he finds out that Eva, his mother, was an angel, and that Vergil destroyed his angel side to be more demon, but at the cost of becoming half human instead. Near the end of the game, Dante does the same with his disbanment of his angel side to be half human and demon instead. Thus leading to DMC3!

    BOOM! That's DmC right there. But this is what happens when you listen to REAL fans, not the rage-filled ones. Kudos to CoolDemon for posting that one comic of DmC on the DmC joke thread and Kudos to who made that comic!
     
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  2. Tony_Redgrave

    Tony_Redgrave TimeLord Detective Staff Member

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    Τhat actually sounds awesome.
     
  3. CoolDemon

    CoolDemon X will never be Y

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    It sounds awesome. It really does, but have in mind the reason the hair is black is not because of some "mother death" thing, and smoking that NT's Dante did in beginning (e3 trailer) was there because they thought it's cool.

    Angel being in DMC story isn't right.
     
  4. BIANCOxMORTE

    BIANCOxMORTE Well-Known Member

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    real cool concept but his devil trigger he has white hair, would be weird if it turns white then goes back to dyed hair but i like the idea a lot!
     
  5. DeamonslayeR

    DeamonslayeR The one true son of Sparda

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    yeah dude this is a pretty good concept of the story if it was a prequel :)
     
  6. wallenb

    wallenb Humanoid Typhoon

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    I like it all except for the dying the hair part. Maybe as a result of his depression, his powers, similar to Spiderman in the movie Spiderman 2, Dante's potential become dormant, thus changing his hair to black. And as a result of him choosing his demonic side, his hair turns completely white again, and so forth.
     
  7. CoolDemon

    CoolDemon X will never be Y

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    It won't be a prequel if Dante's hair changes to black for reason A, and white for reason B.

    Dante has white hair story wise because of genetics.
    Character creation wise his hair is white because of Japanese culture.
     
  8. wallenb

    wallenb Humanoid Typhoon

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    I just think if Dante can fully unleash his demonic powers and transform into a stronger being, why can't the opposite happen.
     
  9. CoolDemon

    CoolDemon X will never be Y

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    When Dante (DMC) fully unleashed his demonc powers he transformed into a demon form like his father.
    Dante did not grow white hair when he unleashes Devil trigger, white hair devil trigger is a concept of DmC.

    The opposite of a strong demon can't happen because Dante and Vergil are sons of a demon who's very powerful. So if you stab them they regenerate very rapidly.
    So theoretically smoking and alcohol shouldn't affect them. But perhaps drugs could? They may stop breathing because of drugs (?).

    So with their regeneration it makes a "weak" state happening by itself not possible.
     
  10. Tony_Redgrave

    Tony_Redgrave TimeLord Detective Staff Member

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    If this was actually a prequel, he wouldn't be able to DT at all. So if his hair wer bleached, they'd probably revert to white at the end of the game or somethingXD
     
  11. wallenb

    wallenb Humanoid Typhoon

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    Everything you said was fine, except you didn't mention Dante's angelic side for DmC
    and his Human side for DMC. Just because his demonic side is way cooler, it still is only half of his real potential. I think to make a more interesting story, just like DMC has done, was take the human side more seriously, and thats why Dante crys in #3. But i think if Dante refused to use his demonic side (in DMC) or refused to use his Angelic/Demonic powers (DmC) then there would be some kind of change in his appearance. You say that its genetics that his hair is white, but why does his clothes change form as well? In DMC4 his coat turns into wings. And Clothes have nothing to do with genetics. I think its possible for Dante to suppress his powers and hide himself among humans.
     
  12. CoolDemon

    CoolDemon X will never be Y

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    I go based on DMC 1. Because DMC 1 is law for many of the things that has with DMC to do.
    DMC 4 has been critized by many DmC supporters to be a crap story, i am not for the success of DmC and i agree that DMC 4 story is just crap.
    But Hideki left Capcom after DMC 1 and that's around when DMC story changed and became "unconsistent".

    Devil trigger is the same thing as Demon form. In the cutscenes/story of DMC 1 you don't see Griffon saying:
    "Wow your Devil trigger is like Sparda's!".
    Devil trigger is the gameplay term for Dante's demon form in story. Because Dante is half demon and half human it's logical that he has a demon form which is again called DT in a gameplay term.

    Gameplay and Story isn't tied to eachother. For example NT's Dante in DmC is half demon and half angel, but in a gameplay perspective he has three stances: human, angel and devil/demon.
    So if you see Devil trigger in DMC 4 changing clothes of Dante then it's a bad idea that was implemented. But that idea applies to gameplay part of DMC 4, not it's story.

    Again, DMC 4 does not Hidek with them. So of course new people with new ideas - so things get confusing.
    I discuessed with Tony that DMC 3 story of how Vergil dies is probably a alternative version of it, and not the original story. The original story seems to be the DMC novel which Hideki has shown support to.


    Another illustration of how Gameplay and Story don't reflect eachother:
    All the skills: Gunslinger, Trickster, Swordmaster etc - have they been introduced in DMC story as "demon skills"? No.
    They are just gameplay skills that aren't attatched to the story.
     
  13. Hazel

    Hazel Let's go to the park and feed the trolls

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    Seems like Dante could have colored his hair and suppressed his powers because because he refuses to admit his heritage...yeah. And he's living as a deadbeat teen, alone with his angst...And then the girl "Kat" comes along and convinces him to use his strengths to fight the demons and the city...etc.
     
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  14. wallenb

    wallenb Humanoid Typhoon

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    Hideki made one game in DMC out of 4. And Capcom is the law not Hideki. If you went and talked to him and asked him where did Nero come from, i'm sure he would not give a flying ****. Hideki had his time with DMC and now he is gone, forever. Sure he made the best game out of the series and also created the world with the help of his team, But he is in no way STILL in control of DMC. And all of the series is part of the canon, with the exception of DmC.

    anyways
    i still think Dante could suppress is powers enough to hide as a human, same as his father.
     
  15. CoolDemon

    CoolDemon X will never be Y

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  16. DragonMaster2010

    DragonMaster2010 Don't Let the Fall of America be Your Fall

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    I know. It sucks that that's not the reason his hair is black. Smoking has never been cool to me so that's my cons with DmC Dante.

    For that, I always thought his DT form (White hair) was because he's in a desperate situation and excepts his full Devil heritage, but rejects it, and his hair turns black again. He rejects his Devil heratige and his hair becomes black. I was thinking when not using your Devil powers enough (Devil arms, powers, etc.) your hair turns Darker, but he's been using that demonic axe so...I don't know. This is HAAAAAARRRRRRDDDDD!!>_<

    That's what I tried to make sense of but to no use for me! IT'S HARD!
     
  17. Tony_Redgrave

    Tony_Redgrave TimeLord Detective Staff Member

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    DragonMaster 2010. I'm sorry, but after you were warned for double-posting you actually triple-post? Officially warned and posts merged.
     
  18. wallenb

    wallenb Humanoid Typhoon

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    Hideki worked for Capcom, not the other way around. It's not hard to understand.

    DMC1 was the foundation for the franchise, but dmc 2, 3, and 4 expanded the world of DMC. There is only one true source, in my eyes, that is canonical and thats ALL the games that have been released. Just because none of the stories have any relation to each other, except for DMC1 and DMC3 (which barely stays consistent) that doesn't mean "the first one's true" because they all have facts about them and they all are part of the canon.

    "He has to move on. He left Capcom probably because of problems with them. It's not easy for a creator to not be able to be there to end the story of your creation"..... "
    With that said, adios Hideki!!

    Dante's genetics are not of this world, so there are tons of possibilities that could have shaped the way that he is. You seem to think your opinion is fact, when in fact there is no true answer to whether or not Dante can change his hair from white to black.I was just thinking of different possibilities other than just dying his hair. And i was talking about not just suppressing his powers, but completely extinguishing any traces of his father. I mean it happens in inuyasha, (not exactly the same way) so why can't it happen to Dante?
     
  19. Sieghart

    Sieghart "Plough the lilies"

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    I'm pretty sure hideki(Platinum games)said that he is ready to develop the reboot.Capcom just need to ask them.
     
  20. mrrandomlulz

    mrrandomlulz Monsuuuta moonssuta mo mo mo mo monsuuta

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    Oh the irony XD

    Anyway good job making that idea XD
     
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