Hi_natz;199291 said:ive just got the second volume of devil may cry 3 manga series and was wondering if anyone knew how many there are?
also if there is ones for the DMC1 and 2?
i know theres at least 3 -
Code 1: Dante
Code 2: Vergil
Code 3: Devil May Cry
Devil Bane;199293 said:There is also a novel within continuty about 1 and one about 2,but it's unrelated and outof the DMC continuty.
Vergil'sB*tch;199297 said:Which novel does it say that with Luce & Ombre?
Vergil'sB*tch;199299 said:Perhaps they are meant to be LDK copies of Ebony and Ivory...
Dante Redgrave;199356 said:Easily could be guns Trish had replicated after Dante's own. In Canon, it's never been said that Sparda actually carried Luce and Ombra, they're only seen in LDK mode for Dante so that the battle mechanics did not have to be reworked. In fact, the entire example of the Order forbidding firearms, save in Nero's case as the sole exception, suggests that Sparda did not use firearms as a rule.
Dante Redgrave;199356 said:You cannot claim "it's canon that Nell made them" since it's never said or implied. Nell made Ebony and Ivory based on YEARS of taking notes of Dante's own reflexes and abilities. If she had made Sparda's guns, that would have been said, and she would have made Eb and Iv a LOT sooner. What IS implied is that Nell knew exactly who Tony really was, and had known Eva, and thus might know OF Sparda. She knew enough to know that Dante had a brother. if she had indeed made Sparda's guns, there would have been a comment from her on such. But she said that "these guns are yours and yours alone." That means there had never been any like them before that she'd made.
# Both pistols have been modified with pivot-style triggers as opposed to the 1911's usual straight-pull trigger
# Both feature custom sight systems; Ebony uses a set of target sights, while Ivory uses a pair of combat sights
# Both feature ported muzzle compensators that reduce recoil and counteract muzzle flip. Both barrels are extend through the compensators and are ported to match the cuts in the compensators.
# Both use custom slides that have been noticeably thickened and reinforced along the slide travel rails and around the chamber and firing mechanism. The result is a slide that bears a resemblance to SIG-Sauer's M1911 line.
# Rails have been bolted to the forward portion of both frames. These rails are used to hold the compensators in place.
# Ebony utilizes an extended safety latch, a hooked trigger-guard and a ring hammer. Ivory uses a standard length safety latch, an rounded trigger-guard and a spur hammer.
# Both have gold-plated magazine releases, hammers, safety switches and triggers.
# Both weapons use ergonomic wood grips witch are inlaid with portraits of Victorian women; as befits their names, Ebony's is dark-haired, and Ivory's is fair-haired.
# Both use double-stack magazines with slam-pads.
# Ivory's frame and slide are both completely left-handed, with all of the controls being mirrored from their normal positions and with the ejection port aimed to the left.
# Both weapons use custom slides and extended frames that lend them a very angular appearance.
# Both weapons have been modified with short-pull triggers, target sights, beavertail grip safeties, and slam-pads on their magazines.
# As with Ebony & Ivory, the left-handed weapon (Luce) is built around a custom frame and slide set. All of the controls have been completely reversed, making it just as easy to operate as it's sister.
# Both handguns are outfitted with ergonomic wood grips. In the middle of the grip panels are portraits of Victorian women, just as on the Ebony & Ivory; as befits their names, Ombra's is dark-haired, and Luce's is fair-haired.
Devil May Cry, Guns — Luce & Ombra: "Sparda's hand-made guns."
Vergil'sB*tch;199388 said:NELL says to Dante: They are your guns, there isn't another like them in the world. Which says to me that Nell never made Luca and Ombre.
(Not unless my illness is making me hallucinate )
In truth, even though Nell treats Tony like a punk, she is always happy to help him out because he reminds her of someone close to her.
Vergil'sB*tch;199388 said:They E&I look like L&O in coincidence. No one knows who created L&O. My guess its that Sparda made them, because he forged his own blades.
Sometime during the events of the story, Nell begins crafting her final masterpiece using the spare parts from several of the busted pistols Tony brings her. Her last masterpiece is none other than Ebony & Ivory, Dante's custom pistols. Nell had crafted the pistols with rapid fire in mind, and had left them disassembled for Tony to put together, making the weapons truly his. She even put her old logo on the slide's of each pistol "For Tony Redgrave By .45 Art Warks".
Vergil'sB*tch;199388 said:So, Sparda when you can so me some real proof that Nell made them, only then will i except it.
clairavance;199427 said:So Ebony and Ivory were put together from scraps of other pistols? It sounds like an Uno car - put together with scrap. Dante's scrappy guns. Erm... what I wanted to say was thanks for posting the specs of E&I and L&O. Now I can have my own pair made
Vergil'sB*tch;199424 said:Someone close to her... she didn't mean sparda. When she was dying, she thought she was talking to a person called Rock. And she had a picture clutched to her chest of a little boy.
Vergil'sB*tch;199424 said:It proves nothing, you are just repeating yourself. I do know i have know this stuff i have read the book.
Perhaps sparda had an alias... or, he meant for Dante to have the guns when Sparda died
'Oddly enough, an engraving addressed to Dante is also carved into both sets of guns:
For Tony Redgrave
By .45 Art Warks'
Perhaps capcom decided to make another set of guns like E&I for the LDK mode.
DMC State they are Sparda's hand made guns... like i said, perhaps he made them.
Someone close to her... she didn't mean sparda. When she was dying, she thought she was talking to a person called Rock. And she had a picture clutched to her chest of a little boy.
Again Sparda, until capcom confirms it, it is just speculation.
But no. Sparda, you just shot down your own argument that Nell made the guns. DMC 1 does mention the guns, in LDK mode, as being hand made by Sparda himself. That rules her out as the maker.
And yeah, it looks like Kobiyashi is further trying to remove the info and background story that Kamiya established to Goideka. with not only having DMC4 implicate Dante is more powerful than his own father, but by retconning out info from the novels...