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Ummmm...... I'm sorry, but where have you been sleeping? Under a rock? Sony does know what they want to do with Spiderman. It follows close enough to the comics that most of the Sony films are ripped straight out of the comics, with little nitty gritty Sony touches. Venom is GORGEOUS under Sony. Keep that theme going. Under Disney, it would be a shadow of the former self. I'm sorry, but you guys don't realize how bad it would be if Sony let go Spiderman and let Disney run amok with Spiderman.Yeah, I don't see this situation sticking for long. Spiderman is a lucrative property for both companies. Taking him out the MCU would be a disaster for Disney while Sony have shown time and time again that they have no idea what to do with him. They know Far from Home only grossed a billion dollars because it was in the MCU and they know they can't continue the franchise themselves without making mention to the MCU. If they reboot again, that would not go over well with the fans who are already hysterical. It would probably end up a box office disaster.
Basically, this is the James Gunn debacle all over again.
I agree with this somewhat, especially the latter, but I would be cringy if it (Spiderman/Venom) was under Disney, because of the whole ****ing SJW trash going on in the MCU.Whatever. Both Sony's latest Spidey films and the MCU's have been such a cringe fest I don't even care who owns the property anymore. Both of them have handled it poorly.
I think the first one was eh... But the next 2 were getting better, and better. It seems like Sony got the knack for it, so when The Amazing Spiderman was released, it was eh, okay. But not as "Eh..." like the first one. I couldn't get over Parker in Spidey 1 & 2. They showed better story progression in the second half of 2, then into 3. Especially when Parker loses the symbiote. He was an @$$hole during the symbiote phase, which kinda gives him character. But once he loses it, he brings back the romantic side of Parker, that Mary Jane instantly loves again. The reason why i don't like the Parker in Spidey 1 through 3 is the portrayal of Parker as this geek. I mean, he was a geek, but for a film...? It was way over the top kind of "geek." Then you got the whole "nice guy" shtick - which makes guys like you and myself look weaker. You need to understand: Films are used as a tool on perceptions of us. So, if a writer wants you to be percieved as a geeky nobody in the basement playing video games all day, that's your brand. I just didn't like Parker then. Which is why I like the new actor playing Parker (Holland). He played the role of Spiderman better than the original Spiderman films. The issue with the new films is that story has holes in it. If you really try to drill down on the plot, you'll realize some dependencies.@Carlos I liked Venom, but can you honestly say it was as good as Homecoming or Far From Home? Look at Sony's last three live-action movies before the deal with Marvel. Spider-Man 3, and The Amazing Spider-Man movies. People still fight over The Amazing Spider-Man movies (They're basically Spider-Man's equivalent to The Last Jedi, only worse since it's two of them). After things fell through with The Amazing Spider-Man movies, Sony didn't even know what they were gonna be doing, if it wasn't for Disney saving their @$$e$ they'd still would probably be clueless
Even when Marvel was its own company, they never made money from films in theatres, their money was from the overall franchise. Films on DVD/BD, Shirts, Toys, Books, Games, Mobile Games. List goes on. Disney on the other hand doesn't make money from the films in theatres, either. Because their company is a global media giant. They also make money off franchises - books, films on DVD/BD, Toys, Shirts, Bedsheets, Mobile Games, crappy Video games (YES, CRAPPY), airing their films/shows on TV, and so on and on. The thing is, Disney also has theme parks - that's their entire business. So, yes, they can make money off those films regardless of if they fail at box office. They make money somewhere else. Companies don't worry about losses on films - kinda like the same way Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo doesn't worry about losing money on every console sold. Why? Software.Venom - critical failure but made a little more than 800 million on a 120 million budget.
Far from Home - first Spiderman film in history gross over a billion on a budget of 160 million.
But sure, I'm living under a rock here. You think all those 1.1 billion were grossed because people were enticed by the Sony logo slapped on it or maybe, just maybe, they went there to see the end of an era following the bombastic ending of Endgame?!
Nobody will care. I honestly don't care. Even in the MCU, Spidey had a little part in the series. He's just a cameo. Soooo.... That's where Sony is trying to go with this "let's just pull it out of there if they are not going to pay us."If Sony are adamant to keep the rights, they'll have to never make mention of the MCU and half-ass the rest of the story. They'll lose millions of dollars in tickets from people who aren't interested in that or who will boycott Sony just because they're MCU fanatics.
You're right, it's not going to help their case. I agree with you there.I give this a month or two before the two studios reach an agreement and things are back to normal. Both studios are interested in printing money and this deal wouldn't help their case.
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@Ash's image is a meme. People post images like that like it's a joke. Therefore it's a meme.What meme?
The video did say that the problem might be handled "really soon."I'm neutral to the Venomverse as I need to see the other characters are handled first.
It'll be fine. Spiderman is currently legally Sony's brand from the movie and games perspective. That includes Venom. This is a little spat, but journalists are writing about it because Spiderman is big. The issue with journalists is that they misconstrue certain details to make a story a bigger deal than what it actually is.The video did say that the problem might be handled "really soon."
I don't think there's going to be a venomverse anymore since, according to the more recent vid I posted, Marvel might be trying to absorb Venom (along with the rest of the venomverse characters like Morbius) into the MCU as well.