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DMC4 retrospective by Foxcade

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While I like Nero, I do think the "Sherlock Holmes" type they initially wanted would have been better.
 

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Seperating the campaigns from the start would avoided some of the issues the game faced but using a different lead from Dante would have always been an uphill challenge.

A way around that would be to use a character people already know and like vergil/lady/trish/sparda and eva etc.

Nero is a mixed bag for me. I don't mind a new main character but I'm not sure he was the right person for the job because on the surface he feels so Dante-lite it made me wish we had another young Dante game.

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Him being a Sherlock-esque detective would have worked better in story because it gives a new dynamic to the team but I'm not sure it would translate well to game mechanics (maybe his smarts pop up when you solve puzzles?) (maybe nero has more tactical weaponry like a bowstaff or a rapier or a tonfa?)
 

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I enjoyed the gameplay on DMC4 but when it comes to the plot and character development as concerned, it's a disaster.
 

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Honestly i don't think 4 is that bad a story. If you were to rank the stories in DMC, it be #3 on the list behind the 3rd game and the reboot. The bottom of the list is the anime and 2.

Plus it could be worse. We could have had as big a mess like NG3.
 

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Honestly i don't think 4 is that bad a story. If you were to rank the stories in DMC, it be #3 on the list behind the 3rd game and the reboot. The bottom of the list is the anime and 2.

Damn son, you deem DMC1's so bad/barebones to not include it on the list when even DMC2 is? XD
 

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Damn son, you deem DMC1's so bad/barebones to not include it on the list when even DMC2 is? XD
The list is longer i just cut to the end.

My ranking is
3
Reboot
4
1
Manga
2
Anime.

I never read the 2 light novels so i can't judge them.
 

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Honestly i don't think 4 is that bad a story. If you were to rank the stories in DMC, it be #3 on the list behind the 3rd game and the reboot. The bottom of the list is the anime and 2.

Plus it could be worse. We could have had as big a mess like NG3.
A kid crying out his girlfriend's name like numerous times, Nero is nothing but a "discount Dante", over-the-top, childish cutscenes, and no character growth and development for us as players to care for them. Yeah, what a great story. The only valuable the devs have for the series is the combat gameplay, while they just say screw the story and characters. Just make them flashy and over melodramatic.
 

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A kid crying out his girlfriend's name like numerous times, Nero is nothing but a "discount Dante", over-the-top, childish cutscenes, and no character growth and development for us as players to care for them. Yeah, what a great story. The only valuable the devs have for the series is the combat gameplay, while they just say screw the story and characters. Just make them flashy and over melodramatic.
I'm not arguing that 4 is some secret masterpiece, I'm just saying its not as bad as it could've been. Hack and slash games weren't really known for it's storytelling until recently and DMC was one of the good ones.

Trust me, it could've been worse, like Ninja Gaiden 3 level bad.
 

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I'm not arguing that 4 is some secret masterpiece, I'm just saying its not as bad as it could've been. Hack and slash games weren't really known for it's storytelling until recently and DMC was one of the good ones.

Trust me, it could've been worse, like Ninja Gaiden 3 level bad.

Agreed. Could have been better, could have been worse, but I still love the story. Despite its issues. I find DmC & the anime's story way worse than 4.
 

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I'm not arguing that 4 is some secret masterpiece, I'm just saying its not as bad as it could've been. Hack and slash games weren't really known for it's storytelling until recently and DMC was one of the good ones.

Trust me, it could've been worse, like Ninja Gaiden 3 level bad.
The stories of God of War series, proves otherwise.
 
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