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yeah, rogue one was amazing. personally wasn't a fan of force awakens, though. the new han solo movie looks great though

I had rock-bottom expectations for Rogue after TFA, but I ended up really enjoying it. Only future rewatches will tell if it holds up over time, but that was the first time in a decade I walked out of a theater having felt I watched an actual Star Wars movie.

What is up with everyone finding the need to put TFA down? I get it, it's not that great. Um...sorry, but neither were Episodes 1 and 2. Admittedly, I enjoyed Revenge of the Sith. But c'mon, TFA really wasn't THAT bad.

Honestly, the only complaint I hear about TFA is how much it shares in common with the original trilogy.
Doesn't matter, you'll always find people who dislike something. You wont change there mind, they wont change yours, best to agree to disagree and move on

I'm cool with people liking what they like. It's all a matter of opinion. I personally just didn't like force awakens because I didn't feel like it delivered on it's promise. But that's just me.

It isn't even that. I keep seeing two sides of the argument, and both are just a major contradiction. One side says "It didn't feel like a Star Wars movie". And the other side says "It felt too similar to the other Star Wars movies" - in terms of story, bringing old characters back to the mix, etc. So on one hand, it isn't Star Wars, but it IS as well!

Felt more like Star Wars then the prequels. Which, btw also borrowed a lot from the original trilogy

That's the one spot where I disagree with people. In fact, the prequels actually made me a bigger Star Wars fan They got me interested in reading the novels & comics, collecting and studying the guidebooks & encyclopedias like religious texts, and diving deeper into the lore of the franchise. In fact, when it comes to Expanded Universe material, the prequel-era is far more interesting than the original.

What I meant was it felt more like the original trilogy. I'm not debating the quality of the prequels, personally as bad as episodes 1 and 2 are, the backstory added by the prequels as a whole does add more depth to the original trilogy

Well, you said "felt like Star Wars", so, y'know... I consider Star Wars to be so much more than movies. It's a franchise conglomerate made up of several different stories in Expanded Universe. That's why until Disney really expands on the franchise the way Lucasfilm did in the old days, I won't really be impressed. Current Star Wars lore is a puddle compared to the vast ocean it used to be.

Understandable, but remember, I went to film school, so I have a bias towards films to begin with, plus it originated as a film series, and primarily, that's what it is.

I too, am a film student, but the thing is, I never held the same criteria for Star Wars as I do with other films. The entire franchise is subject to a lot of criticsm that would destroy other films, and not just the prequels, either. But this series originated from some nerdy kid who want to turn his love of Flash Gordon into a franchise of stuff that was more "cool" than sensible. That's what Star Wars always was.

The original trilogy was never as well-written or concrete as films like most fanboys and nostalgia cultists would have outsiders believe. Exposing Star Wars for the first time to newcomers schooled in the art of cinema, and they will pick apart aspects of the movies that most of us won't ever really admit. The true depth of Star Wars comes from its overarching mythos...

...from its novels by the likes of Michael Reaves & Timothy Zahn, by masterful RPG's by Bioware & Obsidian, the further arcs of Star Wars explored in countless comics, and the development and character-fleshing in the TV Shows "Clone Wars" & "Rebels" that, frankly, blow the films out of the water from a storytelling perspective. That's where the good writing and masterful plot-threading lies, not the films.

That's why I can still enjoy all 6 movies, because I know they were never intended as peerless works of cinema. The prequels were only ever made to build on the world and saga of Star Wars, and without the simplistic story of the originals to hide Lucas' deficiencies as a storyteller, the story of the prequels is told more through visual motifs and tie-ins to the original films...

...and of course, people hated this approach. I didn't mind, because of how richly the prequels were building on the lore of Star Wars. And as a fanatic who devours the expansive mythos of Star Wars almost exclusively through non-film form like comics, novels, and games, I love the prequels as Star Wars products far more than the originals. There's simply more of interest there for me.

And again, I wasn't debating quality of any kind. Simply to me, The Force Awakens felt more like the original three movies then the prequels.